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(October 4th, 2020, 07:55)Gaspar Wrote: FWIW, I'm the first one to criticize Rowain's... unorthodox play generally. But really, he's just putting the horse before the cart and telling us what's in the cart. We lynch Commodore for reasons repeated ad nauseum. If he flips scum, then pindicator is the obvious next target, for reasons repeated ad nauseum. If Commodore flips town, it doesn't clear pindicator, but it does make all the other circumstantial evidence around pindicator void and we need to reassess him based on his play today. I don't see anything dangerous about it.
The dangerous part - or perhaps it's the clever part - is that I'm seeing some people do nothing but discuss this. At least Rowain did a bit on Kaiser before switching back to this theory. But it's excellent cover for lazy wolf play. And there are several people who have upped a few scum points in my book for doing nothing but talk about me and Commodore today.
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Gold Ergo Sum since I actually like Gaspar's tone in his response to my accusation
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(October 4th, 2020, 09:15)pindicator Wrote: (October 4th, 2020, 07:55)Gaspar Wrote: FWIW, I'm the first one to criticize Rowain's... unorthodox play generally. But really, he's just putting the horse before the cart and telling us what's in the cart. We lynch Commodore for reasons repeated ad nauseum. If he flips scum, then pindicator is the obvious next target, for reasons repeated ad nauseum. If Commodore flips town, it doesn't clear pindicator, but it does make all the other circumstantial evidence around pindicator void and we need to reassess him based on his play today. I don't see anything dangerous about it.
The dangerous part - or perhaps it's the clever part - is that I'm seeing some people do nothing but discuss this. At least Rowain did a bit on Kaiser before switching back to this theory. But it's excellent cover for lazy wolf play. And there are several people who have upped a few scum points in my book for doing nothing but talk about me and Commodore today.
Who are these players?
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(October 4th, 2020, 09:30)Meiz Wrote: (October 4th, 2020, 09:15)pindicator Wrote: (October 4th, 2020, 07:55)Gaspar Wrote: FWIW, I'm the first one to criticize Rowain's... unorthodox play generally. But really, he's just putting the horse before the cart and telling us what's in the cart. We lynch Commodore for reasons repeated ad nauseum. If he flips scum, then pindicator is the obvious next target, for reasons repeated ad nauseum. If Commodore flips town, it doesn't clear pindicator, but it does make all the other circumstantial evidence around pindicator void and we need to reassess him based on his play today. I don't see anything dangerous about it.
The dangerous part - or perhaps it's the clever part - is that I'm seeing some people do nothing but discuss this. At least Rowain did a bit on Kaiser before switching back to this theory. But it's excellent cover for lazy wolf play. And there are several people who have upped a few scum points in my book for doing nothing but talk about me and Commodore today.
Who are these players?
See, the thing about being lazy is you want to ask other people to do your job for you...
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Or see if your read is based on real facts 
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Don't you have it backwards? I'm laying out a road map of where I think scum were day 1, not saying here's my case against so-and-so.
I haven't re-read the end of day 1 with that in mind yet. Off the top of my head i know some active people around then: Lewwyn, Gaspar, I think Rowain - but I need to go back and read to get names.
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(October 4th, 2020, 09:42)pindicator Wrote: Don't you have it backwards? I'm laying out a road map of where I think scum were day 1, not saying here's my case against so-and-so.
I haven't re-read the end of day 1 with that in mind yet. Off the top of my head i know some active people around then: Lewwyn, Gaspar, I think Rowain - but I need to go back and read to get names.
wait what?
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(October 4th, 2020, 09:30)Meiz Wrote: (October 4th, 2020, 09:15)pindicator Wrote: (October 4th, 2020, 07:55)Gaspar Wrote: FWIW, I'm the first one to criticize Rowain's... unorthodox play generally. But really, he's just putting the horse before the cart and telling us what's in the cart. We lynch Commodore for reasons repeated ad nauseum. If he flips scum, then pindicator is the obvious next target, for reasons repeated ad nauseum. If Commodore flips town, it doesn't clear pindicator, but it does make all the other circumstantial evidence around pindicator void and we need to reassess him based on his play today. I don't see anything dangerous about it.
The dangerous part - or perhaps it's the clever part - is that I'm seeing some people do nothing but discuss this. At least Rowain did a bit on Kaiser before switching back to this theory. But it's excellent cover for lazy wolf play. And there are several people who have upped a few scum points in my book for doing nothing but talk about me and Commodore today.
Who are these players?
Pindi you said some players have become more suspicious because they only talk about you and comm. Meiz asked who they were. Then you said he was lazy asking. Then he said he wanted to see if you really had people in mind that became more suspicious based on talking only about you and comm. Then you said:
(October 4th, 2020, 09:42)pindicator Wrote: Don't you have it backwards? I'm laying out a road map of where I think scum were day 1, not saying here's my case against so-and-so.
I haven't re-read the end of day 1 with that in mind yet. Off the top of my head i know some active people around then: Lewwyn, Gaspar, I think Rowain - but I need to go back and read to get names.
This is different from the chain it started. Here you are going off the topic. And then you give three names me gaspar and Rowain, but A) I've been decidedly NOT discussing you and comm exclusively, B) Gaspar has slightly expanded his discussion, C) Rowain is currently voting Kaiser, D) The most obvious person who has only been discussing comm and you is Meiz himself... Is he more suspect?
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I'm saying if my read on Commodore as town is correct then to the wolves we had 3 town at the top of the voting. Why would they get impassioned with their votes or argue cases at that point? So the inactive people around then are more suspect (accounting for time zones of course), but I don't have a list of names yet because I haven't done a reread. But I do remember some of the more active names which I would read as town leaning on this theory
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For the record, I've tried to expand the discussion bc I don't think a landslide lynch on d2 is productive but 1. I've been asked by at least 3 people to expound on why I think Commodore is scum and/or defend my actions at EOD1 and 2. I want us to talk about other stuff but I also don't want to flood the zone because I do want comm to hang.
It wouldn't be the worst if someone besides the loudest mouths gave their own reads though, because to use novices language, there are a lot of small footprints out there right now.
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