RBPB3 - Gandhi of the Egyptians

[Krill]

OK, pictures are above...you can see from the demographics, that I am not doing too badly, except in soldiers. I think, in order, they are Maya/India/England/Ottomans/Inca/Carthage then myself...but I'm not that worried, as Rifles and Cav are not buildable for another 5 turns, so I'm not going to finish any units (I have prebuilt a few) until Rifling is in. I'm third in MFG, but Ottomans are still in a GA so I might be a true 2nd IIRC? Crop yield should improve, I want it at 220 by t155...

[Krill]

OK, how to describe the state of the game...

Right now we are kinda in a lull, or rather should be with Rifles just around the corner. Mali didn't read that script and smacked Inca around a bit, and also have a Great Artist to make some of the pain stick. Inca are down to 27 population, in about 9 cities? They are making about 60 gpt while in a golden age, so this was a great war for crippling CUDDLEs teching ability. Aztecs are up to 270ish gpt, but with 4 techers they make something in the region of 500 gpt. We make 520 gpt, enough to fund 3 techers, and have 2700 gold in the bank in case we need anything. We are up Compass and Lib, will beat them to Rifling by about 4 turns, and Maya will beat them to Steam Power, even if they tech Constitution, under a golden age which is probably going to happen at some point for a free switch into nationhood.

Mali and Carthage are pushing 400 bpt (Maya pushing 500 bpt), unadjusted by tech boni. We all have a few more city sites to plant, but CUDDLE don't which means that they are likely to go full bore on military once Rifling is in.

I figure that our main worry is dealing with a shit load of drafted Rifles hitting one player on our side, which is almost certainly myself. That means we need to get to Machine guns asap, if we can do that, then we are sorted. If we put Mali and Maya into a golden age in 10 turns, well, We could be at MGs by t170 if Maya get left alone. My aim is to just settle my cities and keep them in one peace. Once Machine guns exist, well, then the real vertical growth will occur.

[Krill]

How to really piss someone off in a culture war.

[novice]

What does Ex-France look like these days?

[Krill]

Pretty empty. I'm currently tweaking a map for Ruff, but when I've done that in 15 minutes, I'll get you a couple of screenshots. I'll post other screenshots if you request them.

[Krill]

[novice]

Thanks a lot!

Egypt and England will be getting quite large, does this cause any tension with your allies (e.g. Carthage, who seem a bit confined)?

[Krill]

It probably will cause tension. I'm currently at 12 cities, should hit 15 total. I'll be about #1 in cities by a couple, England not far behind (13). Carthage will have 10. Maybe 11. However, I'll border HRE/Portugal/India/Ottomans. Carthage will border Ottomans alone. England will border HRE. Babylon decided to be nice with their neighbours, Maya has already settled a shit load of land and not gotten involved in any wars, and Mali, well, they are currently negotiating the acquisition of more land

2 cities isn't worth that amount of aggravation, luckily I masochistic enough to enjoy these positions.

[Krill]

Chat with Ottomans, about possibly alliance switch.

(12:45:51 PM) Krill: Yo dude
(12:46:06 PM) Ottomans: hi krill
(12:46:13 PM) Krill: Hi
(12:46:50 PM) Krill: Have you spoke to HRE since last night?
(12:47:01 PM) Ottomans: yeah, i spoke to them recently
(12:47:50 PM) Krill: So, you understand the offer, I take it? I'd expect you to be hesitant tbh, what with bordering India, Aztecs and Inca and having just gifted a few units away
(12:48:18 PM) Ottomans: well, the offer us joining pat right?
(12:48:24 PM) Krill: yeah
(12:48:52 PM) Ottomans: well, yeah, we've been thinking about it
(12:50:06 PM) Ottomans: just a sec
(12:50:10 PM) Krill: np
(12:51:41 PM) Ottomans: ok, back
(12:52:03 PM) Ottomans: yeah, we are hesitant
(12:52:22 PM) Ottomans: mainly for the reasons you described
(12:52:35 PM) Ottomans: we arent totally against the deal
(12:52:57 PM) Ottomans: also need my teams concencous
(12:53:29 PM) Ottomans: but if we do switch to pat, it would leave us vulnerable to india and inca
(12:53:43 PM) Ottomans: mainly india though
(12:54:26 PM) Krill: Well, if you were to switch, India would have to defend their entire north, from maya and babylon, and I reckon Byz would also be willing to switch along with you and HRE
(12:54:58 PM) Ottomans: that's true, but they've had to defend their entire north all this time anyway
(12:55:22 PM) Krill: Not really, they have had NAPs, and mMaya are fairly weak
(12:55:42 PM) Krill: Maya were like 4th lowest power last time I checked 10 turns ago
(12:56:15 PM) Krill: but now Rifling is in, and maya have an insanely high happy cap, they want to get into a war or two
(12:57:10 PM) Krill: Byz, well, they help make up the numbers against India
(12:57:39 PM) Krill: I don;t think anyone would say no to another 20 rifles/cuirs/cavs holding down some more indian units
(12:58:21 PM) Krill: Supposedly Babylon and Rome are friends and have some sort of agreement in place, leaving babylon readfy to deal 100% with india
(12:59:54 PM) Krill: Other point which I think is an interesting one is that the Buddhist shrine can't really fall into Mayas' hands or all of us are screwed, so I'd be preetty supportive of you in any campaign to, uh, liberate Aztec cities
(1:00:07 PM) Ottomans: heh
(1:01:44 PM) Krill: And Inca, well, they are the filling in a sandwich between you and Mali, long term. if you guys were to swap, without trading Steampower (and I don;t know what agreements you have in place), the CUDDLE rump can't really afford 2 techers
(1:04:02 PM) Ottomans: ok, so your saying that you would support us going through aztec?
(1:04:12 PM) Krill: Basically, yeah
(1:04:19 PM) Ottomans: inca is probably going to fall long term yeah
(1:04:39 PM) Ottomans: babylon and maya keep india busy
(1:05:39 PM) Krill: Well, baylon, Byz, Maya, myself...you will obviously have to keep some defensive forces around, Khitai needs that against Ruff at hte very least, and it also helps limit India
(1:06:10 PM) Ottomans: yeah, i agree with that
(1:07:20 PM) Ottomans: sorry, give me a min
(1:07:30 PM) Krill: np
(1:07:36 PM) Krill: still looking at the turn myself
(1:07:45 PM) Ottomans: k
(1:09:35 PM) Ottomans: back
(1:10:11 PM) Ottomans: this is looking like a world war situation
(1:10:16 PM) Krill: Yeah
(1:10:21 PM) Ottomans: is anyone going for portugal?
(1:10:25 PM) Krill: HRE
(1:10:28 PM) Krill: England.
(1:10:39 PM) Krill: I'll be threatening their SE as well, likely take a city myself
(1:10:48 PM) Ottomans: ok
(1:11:37 PM) Ottomans: i'll obviously need to hear my teams thoughts about this
(1:11:46 PM) Krill: Ofcourse, of course
(1:12:31 PM) Krill: I didn;t want anyone saying that India wold be completely unthreatened though
(1:12:49 PM) Ottomans: true
(1:14:30 PM) Ottomans: ok, well i cant really make any desicions without comments from my team
(1:15:06 PM) Ottomans: but i'll get back to you when we discuss this a bit
(1:15:10 PM) Krill: cool
(1:15:14 PM) Krill: I need to head out anyway
(1:15:18 PM) Ottomans: np
(1:15:21 PM) Krill: have good day then mate
(1:15:29 PM) Ottomans: you too

[Krill]

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Dantski wants the old border treaty, the one that I agreed with Mukha. Well, fuck that. He had that in the beginning, than decided to piss about. If you play Silly Buggers, you don't stop just because you are losing.