Civs in RtR: Thread 2

[Charriu]

Ok so here would be my proposal for Persia and Byzantines

Persia: Hunting/Agriculture. UB: Barracks replacement: *name*. +1 happy and/or +10% military unit production. UU: Chariot replacement. Immortal. +50% against archery units, flanks archery units, -25% against spears

I actually liked the original immortal. I think the only thing that unit needed was a little bit more umph against archers. To counter that they are more vulnerable to spears. The UB is basically a mini Heroic Epic. I'm not sure if 10% is the right value.

Byzantium: Fishing/Mysticism. UB: Stables replacement. Hippodrome. +1 happy from iron, horse, +1 culture, +1 commerce (city yield via YieldChanges flag). UU: Knight replacement. Strength 10. +3 free strikes.

I only made the UB a little bit more interesting.

[Krill]

The problem for the immortal is that it has a bonus against the one unit that players need to rely on to break a choke. Same problem affected Zulu and Egypt and both of those UU got nerfed. The immortal needs to be rebuilt as another unit, not a chariot, as there is no space for another UU chariot to exist in.

[Rusten]

The suggested holkan requires copper, right? Nothing was said about that in the previous discussion.

[Krill]

All changes are from base units and buildings. If the base unit requires resources so does the UU unless otherwise stated.

But yes, the Holkan would need copper or iron.

[Rusten]

In that case update Arabia, because according to the thread discussion the camel archer doesn't require horses. This was the cause of my confusion.

[Krill]

Done.