Pre-Release CIV VI Discussion

[Krill]

That's the first legible, sane thing I've seen you write MJW. Keep it up

[Bobchillingworth]

And one of Civ3's best components was the rise of the occasional Runaway AI, that swallowed others, grew huge and powerful, and was a beast to contend with, from huge tech leads to overwhelming stacks of doom.

Thinking on it, one of the reasons runaway AI made Civ III such a gem was because they gave games the 4X equivalent of final bosses. Too often 4X games peak in difficulty early on, devolving after the first couple major conflicts into a descalating series of threats long before a formal victory condition can be achieved. It was a much more satisfying conclusion when Civ III gave you a genuinely dangerous opponent that you had to build up your empire to defeat.

[MJW (ya that one)]

Well I've watched this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_F7_td7M5s, and it appears that 'inverted foodboxes' were just it being a beta-demo. You can see a size 3 city having a smaller foodbox than the size 5 one and there's no buildings that give a foodbox reduction.

Hail was right about there being no multipliers in this game for buildings. Doesn't make sense with buildings outside but still lame.

RIP Inverted foodboxes.

[pindicator]

As an Oregonian I am totally nerding out that Crater Lake is one of the new Natural Wonders

[Staltran]

Well I've watched this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_F7_td7M5s, and it appears that 'inverted foodboxes' were just it being a beta-demo. You can see a size 3 city having a smaller foodbox than the size 5 one and there's no buildings that give a foodbox reduction.

Hail was right about there being no multipliers in this game for buildings. Doesn't make sense with buildings outside but still lame.

RIP Inverted foodboxes.

IIRC foodbox size is tied to housing. Actually, I think housing places a hardcap on population too, something like housing+5?

[Magil]

Well I've watched this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_F7_td7M5s, and it appears that 'inverted foodboxes' were just it being a beta-demo. You can see a size 3 city having a smaller foodbox than the size 5 one and there's no buildings that give a foodbox reduction.

Hail was right about there being no multipliers in this game for buildings. Doesn't make sense with buildings outside but still lame.

RIP Inverted foodboxes.

IIRC foodbox size is tied to housing. Actually, I think housing places a hardcap on population too, something like housing+5?

Housing does have a hard cap, but it also has a much more relevant soft-cap where growth slows considerably first at housing-1 and then at pop = housing. It flat-out stops at housing+5 but good luck getting to there with like a 75% or so growth penalty.

[MJW (ya that one)]

Well I've watched this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_F7_td7M5s, and it appears that 'inverted foodboxes' were just it being a beta-demo. You can see a size 3 city having a smaller foodbox than the size 5 one and there's no buildings that give a foodbox reduction.

Hail was right about there being no multipliers in this game for buildings. Doesn't make sense with buildings outside but still lame.

RIP Inverted foodboxes.

IIRC foodbox size is tied to housing. Actually, I think housing places a hardcap on population too, something like housing+5?

Housing does have a hard cap, but it also has a much more relevant soft-cap where growth slows considerably first at housing-1 and then at pop = housing. It flat-out stops at housing+5 but good luck getting to there with like a 75% or so growth penalty.

Wouldn't just be the same size always then if it was just housing? Looking at that video it would imply that the size is around ~35 food always.

[Magil]

IIRC foodbox size is tied to housing. Actually, I think housing places a hardcap on population too, something like housing+5?

Housing does have a hard cap, but it also has a much more relevant soft-cap where growth slows considerably first at housing-1 and then at pop = housing. It flat-out stops at housing+5 but good luck getting to there with like a 75% or so growth penalty.

Wouldn't just be the same size always then if it was just housing? Looking at that video it would imply that the size is around ~35 food always.

Sorry, I don't actually know anything about the foodbox size itself, didn't mean to imply otherwise. Just commenting on the housing "caps".

[MJW (ya that one)]

IIRC foodbox size is tied to housing. Actually, I think housing places a hardcap on population too, something like housing+5?

Housing does have a hard cap, but it also has a much more relevant soft-cap where growth slows considerably first at housing-1 and then at pop = housing. It flat-out stops at housing+5 but good luck getting to there with like a 75% or so growth penalty.

Wouldn't just be the same size always then if it was just housing? Looking at that video it would imply that the size is around ~35 food always.

Sorry, I don't actually know anything about the foodbox size itself, didn't mean to imply otherwise. Just commenting on the housing "caps".

Well I looked at the video again and looked at cites with enough food+amenities and it does appear that bigger cities have bigger foodboxes. So what we saw earlier was probably just because it was a demo (I checked to see if there was a housing shortage there and the answer is no).

Inverted Foodbox
5/28/2016--10/1/2016

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