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Okay so I think there's no way I can get a EOT39 Oracle, so it's going to have to be EOT40. If that one turn costs me the wonder, then oh well.
There's nothing I can do about it.
I turned down science to run max gold this turn (T36), then will go 2t of Polytheism (arriving T39) and 1t of Priesthood (assuming no Oracle built by then), Priesthood comes in on BOT40, all the chops and whips and such come in then and Oracle is built EOT40.
Still annoyed about missing out on that turn (though not as annoyed as I'll be if I miss it by one turn  )
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So in other news, let me give a quick C&D dump of what we've figured out:
Tech-wise, everyone has Mining, Agriculture,
Krilljs ergo sum (Elizabeth of Egypt):
3 cities (sizes 3, 4, 2)
9 techs: (Everyone has Mining, Agriculture, Wheel, Pottery, AH and BW) - they also have Fishing, Mysticism, and Polytheism
Novice (Sury of India):
2 cities (sizes 4, 2)
8 techs: 6 common + Fishing and Mysticism
Kyan (Willem of the Dutch):
4 cities (sizes 3, 2, 1, 1)
7 techs: 6 common + Fishing
Us (Bismarck of Inca):
3 cities (sizes 4, 3, 1)
8 techs: 6 common + Fishing and Mysticism
Shoot the Moon (Pacal of Ottomans):
3 cities (sizes 5, 2, 1)
8 techs: 6 common + Mysticism and Meditation
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Dbl post. Still trying to get the hang of this new tablet
Edit: wait, why am I apologizing for double posting in this thread? In the presence of the king of double posters 
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Sucks to hear about the priesthood micro falling short. 
Hope you still see the fruits of your labor pay off!
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pindicator Wrote:Sucks to hear about the priesthood micro falling short.
Hope you still see the fruits of your labor pay off!
The best news that we could get at this point would be Krilljs ergo sum knocking out Stonehenge here. Save is with Kyan who plays right before me so hopefully it should get here soon
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Okay save in - no wonders built but Shoot the Moon did discover a tech last turn which has a definite probability of being Priesthood.
It's going to be close!
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Okay, it appears that Shoot the Moon also double whipped his capital this turn, for possible overflow into the Oracle. Though I guess the optimal thing would have been to whip it LAST turn, though maybe that didn't work out for his plan or whatever.
Still, the most he can get from a worker whip overflow would be 32 hammers (as he's Expansive also). His capital is at size 3, so if we assume plains hill plant and similar resources (corn/wheat/cows), he'd only be getting 4hpt.
To beat us, he'd need to finish Oracle on his T39, so that's 4t, so he'd be at 48 hammers, or 4 forest chops. Definitely a possibility - we have 4 workers so there's no reason he couldn't too, though he'd need to use all 4 workers
But if he is using say 2 workers to try 2 chops each, they could have finished chopping T36 (this turn (for him) ). Move to a new forest T37, chop 38-40, which is tragically too late (for him).
It's definitely a possibility that he'll beat me.
Though maybe he's not even on Priesthood - it's been 4t since his last tech, and that seems pretty high for a 57b tech. Maybe he teched Writing? That's a 114 beaker tech but he'd have 2 of the 3 pre-reqs, so that's 81 base beakers over 4 turns. For reference, current turn base beakers for us is 25. So yeah, I think that sounds a lot better.
Still have to worry about krilljs but they don't have Priesthood.... (yet)
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Alrighty then, here's the plan
![[Image: t37oracle.jpg]](http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8082680/pbem17/t37oracle.jpg)
It's T37 right now.
Plako is at 34/40 in the Terrace, and making 8(16) hpt. So it will overflow 5 real hammers into a worker next turn.
T38, we'll have 5/40 in the worker, and making 10f and 8h towards a worker = 10 + 13 * 1.25 or 26h into a worker
T39: 26/40 in the worker, we'll single whip it to 51/40, and making 11/7 into the worker
T40: That's 29 hammers overflow, which is 23 hammers after adjusting for the worker bonus.
Worker-wise, Red just went to that forest, so he'll chop T38-40
Green spent a turn cottaging the tile he's on, and will move to the roaded forest next turn and also chop T38-40
Blue roaded this turn, will road next turn (T38), and chop 39-40, joined on that chop on T40 by the worker that's born that turn
Tech-wise, Polytheism will complete in 2t (T39), and Priesthood the turn after that (assuming no Oracle build by then)
23 overflow hammers + 6 base + 39 from chopping is 68 hammers * 50% Industrious bonus = 102/100 and 1t Oracle.
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Famous last words I know but I'm actually starting to feel a bit better about this. Krilljs got Polytheism on T35 and it's T37 right now. Priesthood is a really cheap tech, so unless they're sandbagging (which is definitely possible), seems like they should have gotten it on T37.
If they don't have a tech by next turn (T38) then I'm going to feel even better
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