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RtR mod 3.0.0.1 proposed change log

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Tech costs: 2.0.6.4 and later 2.X versions/3.X proposed changes, on a huge map/monarch difficulty/normal speed.

Fishing: 63/38 (40 base cost 2.X, 35 base cost 3.X)
Agriculture: 103/38 (60 base cost 2.X, 35 base cost 3.X)
Animal Husbandry: 172/140
Bronze Working/Writing: 207/174
Currency: 690/614 (400 base cost 2.X, 350 base cost 3.X, brought in line with other second tier classical techs)
Feudalism: 1207/1145 (700 base cost 2.X, 600 base cost 3.X)
Civil Service: 1380/1367
Guilds: 1725/2053

(All techs after this point have had tech costs altered arbitrarily to fit closer to the curve on both standard and huge map sizes because of the exponential effect of the changes to the tech cost equation)

Nationalism/Education: 3880/3495
Rifling: 7245/7084
Assembly Line: 17250/16044
Industrialism: 22425/20363
Current games (All): RtR: PB80 Civ 6: PBEM23

Ended games (Selection): BTS games: PB1, PB3, PBEM2, PBEM4, PBEM5B, PBEM50. RB mod games: PB5, PB15, PB27, PB37, PB42, PB46, PB71. FFH games: PBEMVII, PBEMXII. Civ 6:  PBEM22 Games ded lurked: PB18

Tech costs: 2.0.6.4 and later 2.X versions/3.X proposed changes, on a standard map/monarch difficulty/normal speed.

Fishing: 59/39 (40 base cost 2.X, 35 base cost 3.X)
Agriculture: 89/39 (60 base cost 2.X, 35 base cost 3.X)
Bronze working/Writing: 179/165
Currency: 598/558 (400 base cost 2.X, 350 base cost 3.X, brought in line with other second tier classical techs)
Feudalism: 1024/1046 (700 base cost 2.X, 600 base cost 3.X)
Civil Service: 1217/1196
Guilds: 1495/1812

(All techs after this point have had tech costs altered arbitrarily to fit closer to the curve on both standard and huge map sizes because of the exponential effect of the changes to the tech cost equation)

Nationalism:3363/3054
Rifling: 6279/6115
Assembly Line: 14950/13682
Industrialism: 19435/17309

Thoughts: base cost of ren era and later techs can afford to be bumped up by 5% or so. The slight cost adjustments to Feudalism, Machinery and Currency I think make sense but I don't mind reverting them if people think the changes are unnecessary.
Current games (All): RtR: PB80 Civ 6: PBEM23

Ended games (Selection): BTS games: PB1, PB3, PBEM2, PBEM4, PBEM5B, PBEM50. RB mod games: PB5, PB15, PB27, PB37, PB42, PB46, PB71. FFH games: PBEMVII, PBEMXII. Civ 6:  PBEM22 Games ded lurked: PB18

Why does a tech (Corporation) require a civic (Representation)? I assume that's a typo and you meant nationalism or something.
Completed:  PBEM 34g (W), 36 , 35 , 5o, 34s, 5p, 42, 48 and PB 9, 18, 27, 57

Current:  PB 52.  Boudicca of Maya

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Current games (All): RtR: PB80 Civ 6: PBEM23

Ended games (Selection): BTS games: PB1, PB3, PBEM2, PBEM4, PBEM5B, PBEM50. RB mod games: PB5, PB15, PB27, PB37, PB42, PB46, PB71. FFH games: PBEMVII, PBEMXII. Civ 6:  PBEM22 Games ded lurked: PB18

Also enough people have pestered me about paratroopers not being able to attack after dropping so I'm probably just going to give them blitz so they can actually do shit.
Current games (All): RtR: PB80 Civ 6: PBEM23

Ended games (Selection): BTS games: PB1, PB3, PBEM2, PBEM4, PBEM5B, PBEM50. RB mod games: PB5, PB15, PB27, PB37, PB42, PB46, PB71. FFH games: PBEMVII, PBEMXII. Civ 6:  PBEM22 Games ded lurked: PB18

Just out of curiosity why was the old RBmod 1.x Fin 3+ on land, 2+ on water scrapped?
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Wasn't really a nerf to FIN. I played it in PBEM20 and fucked around, losing only because of oil screw ups...like in PB18...Seems we don't always learn.

Truth be told if Colossus could be made into a national wonder instead of introducing quays then that would be fine. But turns out that people hate that idea more than quays *shrug*
Current games (All): RtR: PB80 Civ 6: PBEM23

Ended games (Selection): BTS games: PB1, PB3, PBEM2, PBEM4, PBEM5B, PBEM50. RB mod games: PB5, PB15, PB27, PB37, PB42, PB46, PB71. FFH games: PBEMVII, PBEMXII. Civ 6:  PBEM22 Games ded lurked: PB18

(August 11th, 2015, 09:09)Krill Wrote: Also enough people have pestered me about paratroopers not being able to attack after dropping so I'm probably just going to give them blitz so they can actually do shit.

Would Blitz fix the situation? If so then sounds great! smile



Not sure how I feel about Colossus 'National Wonder' yet ... I'll have to look up what a Quay is, but I'm not sure why 'Customs House' couldn't have the Quay effect. Alternatively the building could just be the good ole Civ III 'Commercial Harbor' at, say, Industrialism.

These are the changes from the base game? or from 2.7? I assume the base game, so the "barracks gets culture" is gone.
Completed:  PBEM 34g (W), 36 , 35 , 5o, 34s, 5p, 42, 48 and PB 9, 18, 27, 57

Current:  PB 52.  Boudicca of Maya



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