@Serdoa, I see. I had skimmed through your article, read the ending, and had considered it to be a crack in your composure.
Perhaps I should re-read with a more careful tooth.
Perhaps I should re-read with a more careful tooth.
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Werewolf 12: Game Thread
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Ok, I have a few minutes to sum up my thoughts.
As I said earlier, Pindicator has been getting away with a lot of questionable behavior based on a general villager feel. Especially with regards to Ichabod. For me the villager feel has dissipated, and by his own admission his logic is useless, so I see no downside with lynching him. Gaspar is also pretty useless, which is a dangerous defense to let people get away with. Uberfish pushed for his lynch on day one, that may have been very good advice. He does seem to be trying with some of his latest posts. Tasunke is almost parodically scummy at times, but surviving on metagame considerations instead of a villager feel. If there really are 8 wolves I think he must be one of them. I guess these are my top three to lynch. As Lewwyn said, it's crunch time - all the obvious candidates are gone. P.S. I can dig up specifics on the cases against my scum suspects if there's interest - I expect most people recognize what I'm referring to though (but may disagree on interpretation).
I have to run.
Official Vote Count - Day 5
~31 hours 19 minutes to the deadline Serdoa (2) - Gaspar, Tasunke Meiz (2) - Jkaen, Sareln Sareln (1) - Lewwyn Molach (1) - Meiz Gaspar (1) - novice novice (1) - pindicator Tasunke (1) - Serdoa Jkaen (1) - zakalwe
Civilization IV: 21 (Bismarck of Mali), 29 (Mao Zedong of Babylon), 38 (Isabella of China), 45 (Victoria of Sumeria), PB12 (Darius of Sumeria), 56 (Hammurabi of Sumeria), PB16 (Bismarck of Mali), 78 (Augustus of Byzantium), PB56 (Willem of China)
Hearthstone: ArenaDrafts Profile No longer playing Hearthstone. 
So it looks like three people haven't voted yet today.
I believe these three are Injera, Catwalk, and Molach.
Re: stuff about me...
@Injera - I only want the melodramatic nonsense from Night 1 ignored. If I said something relating to the game itself, its fair game. I'm not trying to use it to skate off. @novice - I'm the first one to pat myself on the back when I think I play well (WW2, WW7, WW9) but I'm not ashamed to admit when I think I play poorly (WW5, WW11.) Like I said in my interactions with Lewwyn, I think my issue has been that I couldn't get into the game. I feel like I'm getting into the game a bit more today since its a little less landslidey. @zakalwe - This might be a good time for you to start self-deprecating about your play. :P I'm going to dig through later today and see what other connections I can make between players, even if the majority of you seem uninterested in what I thought was a pretty interesting theory.
Alright, after re-reading Serdoa's post, it is certainly more reasonable than I had first assumed.
Now then, I can properly respond. "Ahem" In my post, I presented 4 possibilities for wolf-packs setup. 1) Identical Tracker, Announcer, KillBlocker 2) Mirror Investigator, Announcer, Blocker 3) Alt. Mirror Something Searchy "Devil and Tracker", Announcer, and something Disruptive "Blockers and Redirectors etc" 4) Asymmetric Announcer + X + Y I also said that team Black Wolves was killing last night. This could possibly mean either Black, White, White, Black ... or White, Black, White, Black. I think in only cases 3) and 4) could Zakalwe be a wolf, and in 4) Meiz would 'likely' have to be an accomplice. And I may not have said it in that post, but I haven't been getting a 'wolf' read from Meiz lately, so I think case 3) would have to be the case *if* Zakalwe was a wolf. ------------------- Now since then, Sareln has assumed that the kill order is 1:2:1:2:1 ... etc and Gaspar has assumed that the two packs must be identical, or case (1) ie. Tracker, Announcer, Killblocker on both sides. novice Wrote:As I said earlier, Pindicator has been getting away with a lot of questionable behavior based on a general villager feel. Especially with regards to Ichabod. For me the villager feel has dissipated, and by his own admission his logic is useless, so I see no downside with lynching him. Reading this I thought of an educational film: "Uselessness: A Dangerous Defense". This post doesn't sit very well with me at all. A nice bouquet of choices, with some questionable hunting strategies, and a kindly follow-up offer to confirm our suspicions on whichever one we're feeling the least confident on. Injera Wrote:Reading this I thought of an educational film: "Uselessness: A Dangerous Defense". I simply can't be bothered rehashing 1000 posts if people are just going to reply with "I disagree" anyway. Maybe I'm spoiled since we've had such obvious lynchees so far, and I feel Pindicator is the most obvious thing we have today. So I'm a bit bummed that noone else sees it.
I have to run.
Fair enough Gaspar. Two game-related things from Day 1 I'd like you to comment on.
Gaspar Wrote:If I was a wolf and part of MNGs pack, I'd have saved him. If I was a wolf and part of the other pack I'd have leading him to the gallows torch and pitchfork in hand. There is absolutely no f'ing way I'd let a wolf die and get no credit for it and/or not saved him. You're assuming the packs know each other at the start of the game, which contradicts your strong assertion recently that it would be ridiculous. Gaspar Wrote:The Tasunke push was legit because I thought his behavior was suspicious. I still think it was suspicious, but he gave us a good reason to leave him alone. If he's still alive/hasn't provided us with any data in 1-2 day periods, then we can react again. On a re-read of that a while back, I noticed you said 1-2 day periods which just struck me as unusual given in light of Tasunke's power's (as of that time unrevealed) limitation. |
