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The Dark arts - C&D Master Thread

(June 21st, 2013, 23:44)fluffyflyingpig Wrote: I want to point out, no fighting between CFC and CivFr since the start of the war!
(June 21st, 2013, 23:49)spacetyrantxenu Wrote: Phonies.
(June 22nd, 2013, 06:47)kjn Wrote: Two things.

First, it seems CivFr kept Chinook. I think they performed a single-whip just after they captured the city, which I interpreted as razing the city.

The other, and more important thing is that I believe CivFr razed Nobamba (size 6). So far, I have only CivStats data to go on, so feel free to log in to check.

CivFr already owned Chinook about 12 hrs ago when I was updating my large cultural overlay map. We are now seeing real fighting between CFC and CivFr.

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The background is from last night. The insert is from 2 minutes ago.

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(October 22nd, 2014, 10:52)Caledorn Wrote: And ruff is officially banned from playing in my games as a reward for ruining my big surprise by posting silly and correct theories in the PB18 tech thread.
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Did you pick up the demos and war weariness numbers as well, Ruff?? Would be intersting to see if either CivFr or CFC took any losses here.
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(June 22nd, 2013, 07:40)kjn Wrote: Did you pick up the demos and war weariness numbers as well, Ruff?? Would be intersting to see if either CivFr or CFC took any losses here.

Nope - but I will do - see attached. Is there anything else?
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(October 22nd, 2014, 10:52)Caledorn Wrote: And ruff is officially banned from playing in my games as a reward for ruining my big surprise by posting silly and correct theories in the PB18 tech thread.
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(June 22nd, 2013, 07:49)Ruff_Hi Wrote: Nope - but I will do - see attached. Is there anything else?

Thanks!

From what I can see, CFC lost 13k in power. They lost 3k from pop, so I think CivFr killed a single knight. I'm not sure if CivFr took any losses, though. I'm not really sure how to fit 10 war weariness for CivFr and 2 for CFC into this.

Total power loss since the start of our turn is 21k, but that includes any whippings as well, or losses to barbs
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Some captured/loss of workers perhaps?
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(June 22nd, 2013, 08:16)kjn Wrote:
(June 22nd, 2013, 07:49)Ruff_Hi Wrote: Nope - but I will do - see attached. Is there anything else?

Thanks!

From what I can see, CFC lost 13k in power. They lost 3k from pop, so I think CivFr killed a single knight. I'm not sure if CivFr took any losses, though. I'm not really sure how to fit 10 war weariness for CivFr and 2 for CFC into this.

Total power loss since the start of our turn is 21k, but that includes any whippings as well, or losses to barbs

Do you have the historical numbers? Were they both at 0 WW last turn?
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(June 22nd, 2013, 08:16)kjn Wrote:
(June 22nd, 2013, 07:49)Ruff_Hi Wrote: Nope - but I will do - see attached. Is there anything else?

Thanks!

From what I can see, CFC lost 13k in power. They lost 3k from pop, so I think CivFr killed a single knight. I'm not sure if CivFr took any losses, though. I'm not really sure how to fit 10 war weariness for CivFr and 2 for CFC into this.

Total power loss since the start of our turn is 21k, but that includes any whippings as well, or losses to barbs

10 war weariness for CivFr and 2 for CFC

Hmm. Assuming both were at 0WW before this turn, best guess is:

CivFr
Kill 1 city, one unit defending the city, one unit in neutral territory:
6+2+2 = 10
CFC
Lose one unit defending in neutral territory
2 = 2
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Sat down with the German army numbers, and I believe they have only circa 40k in unknown units laying about. Including garrison units, that means they can have very few other units with which to reinforce Webringen or to use for a counter-attack against us.
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If you're going to do C&D for war weariness between CFC and CivFr, it would help to have the right numbers. tongue

CFC: 17 war weariness
CivFr: 22 war weariness

That's high enough to be some real unit exchanges taking place (our war weariness with the Germans is 66, mostly from city captures, and WPC has 19 war weariness with them). I really wish that CivFr would answer our messages and tell us what's going on. There's an obvious opportunity for our teams to work together against CFC.
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(June 22nd, 2013, 07:40)kjn Wrote: Did you pick up the demos and war weariness numbers as well, Ruff?? Would be intersting to see if either CivFr or CFC took any losses here.
(June 22nd, 2013, 07:49)Ruff_Hi Wrote: Nope - but I will do - see attached. Is there anything else?
(June 22nd, 2013, 21:18)fluffyflyingpig Wrote: 10 war weariness for CivFr and 2 for CFC

Hmm. Assuming both were at 0WW before this turn, best guess is:

CivFr
Kill 1 city, one unit defending the city, one unit in neutral territory:
6+2+2 = 10
CFC
Lose one unit defending in neutral territory
2 = 2
(June 23rd, 2013, 11:36)Sullla Wrote: If you're going to do C&D for war weariness between CFC and CivFr, it would help to have the right numbers. tongue

CFC: 17 war weariness
CivFr: 22 war weariness

The 10 and the 2 were from before CFC played their turn, after CivFr razed Nobamba. It seems like CFC counter attacked during their turn. As I said previously, this war seems to be heating up.
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(October 22nd, 2014, 10:52)Caledorn Wrote: And ruff is officially banned from playing in my games as a reward for ruining my big surprise by posting silly and correct theories in the PB18 tech thread.
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