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WW20: Legend of the Undercity

Some good work by the village. Last night I went to bed and I couldn't sleep for about an hour because this game was nagging at me. It all felt so wrong. SO here are some of the thoughts I thought last night.



-I think Serdoa is innocent. At this point he reminds me of 48 hours of fun Serdoa during Tasunke's game. I really thought he was SK then too. And I think he's playing too stupid at this point to be SK. He's too butthurt when he should have been prepared for the accusations to come his way if he were scum. So congrats Serdoa you've convinced me of your innocence.


-Ryan though I'm starting to come around on as possible scum. I think he honestly thinks I am the SK. Now why is he so vigorously hunting SK instead of the other scum? Perhaps because he is the other scum and the SK is the only one he can legitimately hunt.

-Jkaen has been on my suspect list for a while and I said earlier I think he's lying about his claim. BUt as I lay in bed last night I realized this post:

(February 11th, 2013, 07:25)Jkaen Wrote: Lewwyn, if you think Serdoa is the SK then why are you not voting for him?

Kill the SK we stop 1 source of night kills. Kill a scum (if Pind is scum) we are still probably facing 2 kills tonight

Was super scummy. Jkaen is attempting to get me to vote Serdoa, which I still haven't done and to stop voting Pind. But worse he is trying to get me to focus on killing the SK. Look if we do have 3 scum left we are better off looking for scummy behavior in general. It is foolish to hunt solely for the SK. It limits your search targets and parameters. Villagers suddenly become more lynchable because while they do not fit with scum. They might possibly fit the SK. Mislynch ahoy. If you focus on SK and you go through a bunch of villagers to kill the SK, then you still have the scum faction a voting block of, we assume 2, to deal with.

SOLELY SK HUNTING IS A TRAP!

Of this both Ryan and Jkaen are guilty. It makes you look like you're hunting scum but A) you want the SK dead too, B) it helps mislynch villagers and C) the SK could just as easily be trying to lynch others as the SK in defense.

Just lynch SCUM people, like Jkaen.
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(February 11th, 2013, 10:48)Ryan Wrote: Saying your going to sleep and we are wired. Exact same thing you did last day. Afking won't stop the lynch.

Are you taunting me? You obviously don't live in China and you obviously aren't married to a pregnant woman.

Are you for real
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(February 11th, 2013, 19:58)Lewwyn Wrote:
(February 11th, 2013, 07:25)Jkaen Wrote: Lewwyn, if you think Serdoa is the SK then why are you not voting for him?

Kill the SK we stop 1 source of night kills. Kill a scum (if Pind is scum) we are still probably facing 2 kills tonight

Was super scummy. Jkaen is attempting to get me to vote Serdoa, which I still haven't done and to stop voting Pind. But worse he is trying to get me to focus on killing the SK. Look if we do have 3 scum left we are better off looking for scummy behavior in general. It is foolish to hunt solely for the SK. It limits your search targets and parameters. Villagers suddenly become more lynchable because while they do not fit with scum. They might possibly fit the SK. Mislynch ahoy. If you focus on SK and you go through a bunch of villagers to kill the SK, then you still have the scum faction a voting block of, we assume 2, to deal with.

SOLELY SK HUNTING IS A TRAP!

YES! I've been saying this all game, thank you! SK's almost always end up getting themselves killed anyway, what's the point? Listen to Lewwyn, he's making sense here!

I do think someone actively looking to lynch someone solely because they could be SK is a likely wolf/scum. In addition to Jkaen and ryan, azza has done this on day 2-3 as well.
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(February 11th, 2013, 11:11)pindicator Wrote: Lew-

What's with the changing stance on me? You're saying you have no town reads on me when earlier in the game you were complimenting me.

I'm concerned that we've only seen you active twice all game. Once when you attacked novice and now here. And this push on Serdoa as SK seems very unfounded.

Well I don't have any town tells but I don't have any real scum reads either. Pretty much for me you are in the middle. Yesterday it was early and I wanted to see more people voting. I think Azza is scummy and vote him but I don't want Azza to be a refuge vote or a park vote. I keep going back and forth on you really so I put my vote on you and proceed to talk and see what happens.

Well thing is I never voted for Serdoa, I never really brought a case against him, but he did get under my skin. I think he's innocent now after having calmed down and slept on it.

No I think at this point I would be most happy with lynching Jkaen, Azza or possibly Ryan.
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@Ryan - Who do you think is scum? Not SK, but scum?
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(February 11th, 2013, 19:58)Lewwyn Wrote: -I think Serdoa is innocent. At this point he reminds me of 48 hours of fun Serdoa during Tasunke's game. I really thought he was SK then too. And I think he's playing too stupid at this point to be SK. He's too butthurt when he should have been prepared for the accusations to come his way if he were scum. So congrats Serdoa you've convinced me of your innocence.

Hmm... there is a bit of a resemblance to Tasunke's game with Serdoa.


I'm not particularly convinced by the meta case on Jkaen, while looking back I like Ryan and Serdoa's case for Lewwyn being the SK.

My #1 choice for lynching is Molach though. Not sure how he's weasled his way to day 4 despite being suspected most days. Suggests to me that the scum are keeping the pressure off him.
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(February 11th, 2013, 22:31)Azza Wrote:
(February 11th, 2013, 19:58)Lewwyn Wrote: -I think Serdoa is innocent. At this point he reminds me of 48 hours of fun Serdoa during Tasunke's game. I really thought he was SK then too. And I think he's playing too stupid at this point to be SK. He's too butthurt when he should have been prepared for the accusations to come his way if he were scum. So congrats Serdoa you've convinced me of your innocence.

Hmm... there is a bit of a resemblance to Tasunke's game with Serdoa.


I'm not particularly convinced by the meta case on Jkaen, while looking back I like Ryan and Serdoa's case for Lewwyn being the SK.

My #1 choice for lynching is Molach though. Not sure how he's weasled his way to day 4 despite being suspected most days. Suggests to me that the scum are keeping the pressure off him.

funny that you are now shocked he's still alive day 4, despite never trying to get him lynched in previous days.

Could you and Molach be a little more obvious in your distancing efforts, please?
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(February 11th, 2013, 23:24)Bigger Wrote:
(February 11th, 2013, 22:31)Azza Wrote:
(February 11th, 2013, 19:58)Lewwyn Wrote: -I think Serdoa is innocent. At this point he reminds me of 48 hours of fun Serdoa during Tasunke's game. I really thought he was SK then too. And I think he's playing too stupid at this point to be SK. He's too butthurt when he should have been prepared for the accusations to come his way if he were scum. So congrats Serdoa you've convinced me of your innocence.

Hmm... there is a bit of a resemblance to Tasunke's game with Serdoa.


I'm not particularly convinced by the meta case on Jkaen, while looking back I like Ryan and Serdoa's case for Lewwyn being the SK.

My #1 choice for lynching is Molach though. Not sure how he's weasled his way to day 4 despite being suspected most days. Suggests to me that the scum are keeping the pressure off him.

funny that you are now shocked he's still alive day 4, despite never trying to get him lynched in previous days.

Could you and Molach be a little more obvious in your distancing efforts, please?

Err... ok then? Not sure what exactly your point here is.
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my point is - I don't recall you being that interested in lynching molach in previous days when me and Q were both begging everyone else to lynch him. Now that the game is near an end, and its apparent that one of you are going to be lynched before its over, you're suddenly at each others throats! You don't see how that is suspicious?
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Ok, new angle to attack me on makes a nice change.

Searching for the SK rather than scum, and lynching somebody who most people seem convinced is the SK are two very different actions, I believe since you are all so sure Lewwyn is the SK (and based on last nights posts I am coming round to it) then all I was saying is make sure you take him down.

I did chuckle a bit when the person everybody suspects to be the SK pushes us to ignore the SK and focus on finding scum
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