PB71 Tech Thread

[yuris125]

Just swap Krill's start and mine if it will help. Doubt us knowing BFC of one other start will have a severe impact on the game

A map script which produces less lush maps and can be used for random games would be great

[Krill]

Pin I don't know how to answer that. I'd point out that even in pb69 there are cities settled minimum distance and have their own food.

Mjmd, I agree that the majority of the issue is mapscript based now. Not sure how much work it is to fix that but it is beyond me.

[Mjmd]

Earth map has AWFUL neighbor and land balance. Again a reason a lot of scripts have problems.

[scooter]

Mjmd, I agree that the majority of the issue is mapscript based now. Not sure how much work it is to fix that but it is beyond me.

I think you’re getting push-back largely because of this:

1) I'd suggest Global Highlands or Tectonics are fine.

There’s been a ton of time for you to roll some Tectonics maps and indicate to everyone that you’re not willing to play the script. I wouldn’t play one either FWIW, but you explicitly said it was fine, and I get the impression everyone else would be genuinely fine with nearly 0 balancing whatsoever. If other players are unhappy to the point of wanting to not play, speak up now. It does not currently seem like anyone is close to that and I’m operating based on that, but others wanting to bail changes things.


If my assumptions on other players preferences are correct, then In the interest in helping things move along, I see 3 routes here. Krill has to make a choice which will narrow it down.


1. Krill chooses to play on. He probably needs to assure people he won’t quit later.
2. Krill stays and a new map is made. I have no ETA for this. There’s no volunteers currently, and I imagine folks would be quite hesitant to commit time to something that could get thrown out again, so extremely specific instructions would be required. I would imagine this could take a little while unless the instructions/script/etc are all very explicit and easy to do and don’t require lots of lurker review.
3. Krill steps out and we more quickly reroll the same script, do very light edits, and launch. This would likely be quite a bit quicker than Option 2 because the remaining players appear to be less concerned about what the map gives them, so much less review time will be necessary.


So we need a play on or not from Krill. If he says no to playing on, I would then recommend the other non-Krill players decide whether they want to go along with 2 or 3. I think that’s the fairest outcome.

[Mjmd]

#1 we could do Pins suggestion and make sure there aren't any 8x8 blank patches. But its still going to look like a random map. There is a reason I don't play these; if you sign up for a random map and ask for minimum capital changes you can't be shocked when they don't look like a hand crafted map.
#2 or #3 (if Q isn't willing) I would be willing to do this but A) PB66 means I have no firm time on map and B) its still going to look like a random map.

[yuris125]

I'm happy to play whatever

[Thoth]

I'm happy to play whatever

[pindicator]

I just want a Great Plains map with the green parts cut out

[Thoth]

[Qgqqqqq]

On reflection, I think we can make some small changes that will make everyone happy. Posting here because I think it's best for everyone to collectively agree that this would make for a balanced set of starts.

Krill:

Pindicator:

I'll do everyone else's tomorrow night.

Pindi, let me know if you're unhappy with yours - I did think some of those tiles would be better as tundra or ice...