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[Spoilers - Flauros (sunrise089 and darrelljs)]

sunrise089 I don't think we can take the in game peace offer still. Is Sedora just hoping we are going to trust his insane self? You are still up to play but I did capture a shot for the lurkers:

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Gotta love aristofarms smile. Our production sucks but once we chop out some GMs (building a few mines in the process) that should catch up nicely. Next Settler is due in 3 turns. Mining in 4, followed by Bronze Working in (I think) 7. We should plan out the Worker micro for the chopping. We want to get those half cost GMs up ASAP. I'll do it during my turnset as for now they are focused on our third city.

We badly need an Academy in Prespur. As soon as we catch our breath it needs to pop a Library out and then run a Sage. That might not be for some time unfortunately frown. We also need some culture in our new cities crazyeye. I still think GMs have to be first, but that should probably be the second build. Man we need produciton badly. Remember that Serdoa said we had Copper in Prespur's BFC.

Darrell
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Right, while Loki did just move across our cities I did not accept the cease fire.

FYI at end of turn our bloodpet completing brought us back to #1 power.
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T59 - First, no sign of Orthus. I think this means he had to head towards the pirates since he should have reached our cultural visibility by t58 at the latest. Can Orthus take a random path, or does he always walk directly towards a civ as he seems to in my games?

Inter-turn a GMerchant was BIDL. Barnaxus (dwarven hero) got built. Clowns adopted Agrarianism and Nationhood. They sure do like civic changes. Loki moved east, and assuming we're 100% on the puppets-can't-cast-disrupt thing we're ok to offer a cease fire again. Oddity - Loki has not taken any promos. Be careful us and other civs - woodsman or guerrilla II could let Loki move into a city unsuspected, so he may be not promoting for that reason.

Most importantly, rival top power has again passed us, at 40,000. That means someone is building units rather steadily.

Currently we're building a Settler (4t) and a Gov Mansion (20t!). Units will be needed, but I think they're on hold for now.
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I don't believe loki gets promotions.

Orthus is (or at least was) coded to beeline nearest city.

Am I up now?

Darrell
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We have to go Sanitation after Bronze Working, I think.

Darrell
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darrelljs Wrote:We have to go Sanitation after Bronze Working, I think.

Darrell

Sanitation can be reached via BW or Construction, right? BW gives +1 strength with copper hooked up, and the ability to build a building and unit we won't ever use. Construction gives another useless building+unit, but doesn't it also enable us to build farms where we want?
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I prefer the Bronze Working route. First, I am not convinced we won't need Moroi. Second, we definitely want to use our Copper and Gems. Third, I don't see an immediate need for chaining irrigation; we have so many rivers that we'll be able to farm enough tiles for now. Fourth, Construction requires Masonry which is a tech we don't have an immediate need for.

Amelia did kill Orthus apparently; too bad.

Darrell
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darrelljs Wrote:I prefer the Bronze Working route. First, I am not convinced we won't need Moroi. Second, we definitely want to use our Copper and Gems. Third, I don't see an immediate need for chaining irrigation; we have so many rivers that we'll be able to farm enough tiles for now. Fourth, Construction requires Masonry which is a tech we don't have an immediate need for.

Amelia did kill Orthus apparently; too bad.

Darrell

Ok, sold.
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T60 (so back to darrell next):

*Orthus is dead, via the pirates. Nice booty for them.

*RoK and FoL FIDL. We know FoL is Uberfish. RoK is someone Uberfish and us don't have visibility on, as he asked me if we knew who founded it.

*Demos grow more worrying. We're third, 5k behind the leader. Uberfish's power has spiked. He claims this is due to a pair of lizards bothering his cap...

*We're also down to 3rd in GNP. I'm assuming this is due to those two religions being founded for massive culture. (EDIT: Completing another farm brings us back to 2nd)
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I inherit a civ in much better shape, hopefully I can also improve our situation smile.

What's the diplo status with the clowns? Are we still talking about a NAP?

Darrell
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