WW20: Legend of the Undercity

[LeChuck]

I have to confess I am not as certain as you are on pindicator. As written above I don't like to lynch only for the reason that we disbelieve in 3 seer-roles for village.

The thing about pindicator is I've been wary of him all game. And I've said that I'm not sure if it was the post restriction or if it was that he was scum. He's just been on my radar. Today when I was doing my write up and goign through it, I couldn't shake the feeling that it was possible Pindicator was playing us. I said in that write up twice. But as I was writing I tried to put my misgivings aside and just go with what seemed more probable.

Now I'm actually feeling very convinced that Pindicator is in fact scum. I also am unsure of his partner. I'm also trying to figure out if Meiz is in fact SK or not. Problem is Meiz hasn't put up any sort of resistance and nothing I could really get good feedback from. I've actually been reading him as a lot of resignedness and even his "yay" about pindi seems is just what an SK or a villager would do.

I'm also waiting to hear what pindi has to say, but I think its very probable that pindi invented his PR and is a scum tracker.

[Meiz]

Lewwyn, when you're hit by the volume of your accusation, it drains some energy out

Sometimes the most likely explanation actually is the correct one. Same reason I refused to go along with the discussion on why you're the obvious SK yesterday. Too much out-guessing uberfish to make it work. I only have one power, to execute a player who is leading the vote at that moment. The flavor is that Korgan prefers direct action, instead of listening whiny useless party members. So I could simply step up and hit the leading candidate with my axe

[Azza]

The only way Miez is SK would be if , I could only see 1 power. If thats the case then Pindicator didnt lie about his Post restriction. If he has scan results then I dont mind. I just dont get how as a tracker would you lynch someone, that has no night powers. He also might be susceptible for to much information the way he knew Tasunkes power. If he has a good reason for lynching a person without night powers. I will take my vote off him.

I don't think the role proves anything regarding his alignment. As has already been speculated, he could have a night kill or a day kill as the serial killer, and "Execute" doesn't really clear things up at all. The only meta argument against it IMO is that it might be a bit weak for a serial killer role.

[Molach]

and Since I suck at scum hunting as note from yesterday. How do you guys know if a tracker fakes results?

If they reveal something that contains unknown information which is later confirmed, they either tracked or got the result from the scum discussion.
If the tracker makes some assumptions that are proven wrong by others in thread, he faked it.
Faking the role itself is tricky, need to make up every night's track result. And that tends to end up with following people who sadly died later on. In this case he could probably post many of his results, he'd just need to 'edit' actions that would point to scum hunting town PRs rather than nailing wolves. We also have many known night's actions from many people so probably not that hard.

[uberfish]

Pind (3) - lewwyn meiz ryan
Azza (2) - molach pind
Meiz (2) - Q serdoa
Molach (1) - azza

[Serdoa]

Pindicator

[LeChuck]

I have to go to bed.

[pindicator]

Well, there goes the hope of a 5th night's result. And I missed those potato comments Ryan, I just thought you knew the game Portal 2.

Yes, I am a tracker. I still have the post restriction, what with being an Aperture Science A.I. construct my processing power is limited to the potato's 1.1 volt output, so I don't know if that means Ryan can only see the active ability and not the PR information. I was thinking tonight at the deadline for night actions would be the last moment for me to reveal, and I wasn't hot on revealing today because I don't have a smoking gun on anybody.

If you look at my first post of each day, the first name is the person I tracked. But here's what I have:

Night 1 - Track Gaspar, No Result

Gaspar I thought was scummy in that he reminded me a lot of the Gaspar that I should have lynched a few games back but instead got me to lynch Waterbat for the scum win.

Night 2 - Track Brick, he went to Ichabod

Initially this was Bigger, but I convinced myself to switch because I didn't like how Brick had yelled at the town for the first two lynches being bad in his view, but then was joking around in the thread after the fact. I thought he was faking the anger and that seemed suspicious. When I noticed that Brick changed his stance on Ichabod immediately and Ichabod didn't seem to be suffering any ill effects then I figured Brick must have gleaned something overnight that made him determine it.

Night 3 - Tracked Lewwyn, No Result

Because I thought Lewwyn was SK. At first I was pissed at Ichabod for taunting, but then I wondered maybe I would see the real target even if Ichabod received the action. (Faint hope, more likely.)

Night 4 - Tracked Qgqqqqq, No Result

Serdoa, you caught on to this earlier in the day and I tried to play it off as coy when it looked like we weren't all revealing (so I could try to get a 5th night's result in). I thought with Ichabod's taunt I could just come out and ask point blank, but I guess that still gave my role away. So I can say with 100% certainty that Qgqqqqq didn't do a night kill last night. I still suspect he's scum, but it's one reason I'm voting for Azza over him.

(As an aside, it is probably a good thing that I had used up all my posts before Ichabod's "command" to uberfish. I wrote and deleted so many rant posts, thinking about breaking the PR and daring uberfish to do his worst -- I even saved the best one where I call him Wheatley and had a link to the Youtube clip where GLaDOS is telling Wheatley off.)

I win with the village. I am with the village. Meiz, if you think I'm calculating in my posts it's because I only have 10 of them I can use, so I'm making notes and saving them for posting. I told you I would convince you of this, and at this rate it looks like you're going to be shown up by the end of the night at the latest. I don't think scum is going to risk having me around another night now


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[Ryan]

I think Il die before you do tonight anyways. If your town, Serdoa makes a point that 5 scum = theres a chance we have 3 seers. I wanna be sure before I lynch you pin but the way you played is really wierd for me.

[Meiz]

Not really sure what to do. The role is verified and the claim is believable, and fits your actions (but you didn't start day 2 with BRick's name). Being in potato mode would explain the power consumption (posting limit). But I believe Ryan is town, and BRick was town, a lot of scanners and trackers for the village. There's no way to verify you tracked Gaspar on night 1... Otherwise your targets also fit wolf. I can't really shake off the village vibes from Q.

I'd be willing to lynch Azza, in case you can deliver good results for the next day.