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[PBEM22] Friends with Benefits

The deal is you never let your thread sit at the bottom of the forum, you always strive to have the most posts and, in my opinion most importantly, the most views of all the player threads.

How one achieves this doesn't matter. Updates from the game are acceptable but so is posting random shit like music videos. Whatever one does the best strategy is to manipulate lurkers into having a conversation in your thread and using them as marionettes.
Current games (All): RtR: PB80 Civ 6: PBEM23

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Well, there goes my dream of playing Portugal defended by Norway but atheist you have so good pillage prospects!
Current games (All): RtR: PB80 Civ 6: PBEM23

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(August 17th, 2022, 15:17)thrawn Wrote: Portugal defended by Norway could be quite nice. But then anything defended by Norway can be a farmer's bonanza smile

You got any other dreams that will be spoiled with the next 5 picks?

Spain looked decent, given the separate landmass, because with the production bonus and earlier fleets it seemed like a strategy to bait players into an illthought out attack.

Egypt were a poor man's version of this.

Japan to let you build the lesser heptagon for shits and giggles

Netherlands seemed like a back up, Lees a dream more an unfortunate reality.
Current games (All): RtR: PB80 Civ 6: PBEM23

Ended games (Selection): BTS games: PB1, PB3, PBEM2, PBEM4, PBEM5B, PBEM50. RB mod games: PB5, PB15, PB27, PB37, PB42, PB46, PB71. FFH games: PBEMVII, PBEMXII. Civ 6:  PBEM22 Games ded lurked: PB18
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(August 17th, 2022, 15:33)thrawn Wrote:
(August 17th, 2022, 14:46)ljubljana Wrote: we pick Portugal

Yeah, I think this was a mistake Ljub. Unless you are already planning to have an inner city that will be your destination you should know that there is no way I'm leaving you alone or that you can defend against the longships between shipbuilding and cartography.

thrawn Wrote:I don't know if he's aware but he ain't getting a single international route out of his island at least until cartography.

One of the map settings is teammates on separate landmasses and there are heinous sharks in these waters.

The question is what route his traders will take. They tend to prefer going on water over land so I'll probably be able to pillage the internal ones too unless he makes an inner city and sends to it. But if he doesn't realise until too late his dotmap might not allow it.

If he manages he'll still be able to do some good development, so I'll slightly raise my priority to get longships out early so I can kill any galleys the others build to prevent them from meeting one another

So these were my thoughts as well, but is there not a GA option to make trade routes unpillageable?

I doubt Indonesia is still available by that point, so he has to have some plan for the trade routes? And he needs harbours. It just seems bizarre and I wonder if I'm missing something like longboat which can't be everywhere...?
Current games (All): RtR: PB80 Civ 6: PBEM23

Ended games (Selection): BTS games: PB1, PB3, PBEM2, PBEM4, PBEM5B, PBEM50. RB mod games: PB5, PB15, PB27, PB37, PB42, PB46, PB71. FFH games: PBEMVII, PBEMXII. Civ 6:  PBEM22 Games ded lurked: PB18
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(August 17th, 2022, 15:35)thrawn Wrote: There you go Krill, +4. Not sure this is my type of war but I've never lost a game so let's not make this the first for either!

I wonder if there are any civ 4 vets whom we could chain up and use as spam bots. Commodore maybe?
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Yeah, I'll probably go with saying Spain was what I thought was the best option as it gives a few interesting options including religious plays, but I don't know if it could be a sane pick.

I was looking at Celts as an unorthodox pick to enable an early land war if all the players are jumbled together and not in a team quadrant, so to speak. The player stuck between us would get squashed.

Ottomans are likewise a continuation of the "fuck you" attitude with the corsair and Ibrahim but I don't see the economic benefits. Funny counter to England though
Current games (All): RtR: PB80 Civ 6: PBEM23

Ended games (Selection): BTS games: PB1, PB3, PBEM2, PBEM4, PBEM5B, PBEM50. RB mod games: PB5, PB15, PB27, PB37, PB42, PB46, PB71. FFH games: PBEMVII, PBEMXII. Civ 6:  PBEM22 Games ded lurked: PB18
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(August 17th, 2022, 16:10)thrawn Wrote:
(August 17th, 2022, 15:57)Krill Wrote: I wonder if there are any civ 4 vets whom we could chain up and use as spam bots. Commodore maybe?

I was going to post anyway that I'll be talking you through the civ6 mechanics if anyone wants to get into civ6, that might bring a few.

Probably worth hawking that around the already running PB games.
Current games (All): RtR: PB80 Civ 6: PBEM23

Ended games (Selection): BTS games: PB1, PB3, PBEM2, PBEM4, PBEM5B, PBEM50. RB mod games: PB5, PB15, PB27, PB37, PB42, PB46, PB71. FFH games: PBEMVII, PBEMXII. Civ 6:  PBEM22 Games ded lurked: PB18
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(August 17th, 2022, 16:08)thrawn Wrote:
(August 17th, 2022, 15:56)Krill Wrote: So these were my thoughts as well, but is there not a GA option to make trade routes unpillageable?

I doubt Indonesia is still available by that point, so he has to have some plan for the trade routes? And he needs harbours. It just seems bizarre and I wonder if I'm missing something like longboat which can't be everywhere...?

No such admiral, would be OP. I think there is only a later golden age dedication and Phoenicia's galleys make nearby traders immune. There are admirals who increase pillage yields though smile

1 longship can't be everywhere. 60 longboats...

Sorry, every time I write GA I think golden age and forget it can refer to the admiral.

Thanks for confirming the reform the coinage ages. That would be nasty if he couldn't get into a golden age...
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Are we allowed 2 England's or I'd someone picks Vicky does Eleanor need to be French?

What are the aggressive naval civs though? England? And Phoenica?
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Ended games (Selection): BTS games: PB1, PB3, PBEM2, PBEM4, PBEM5B, PBEM50. RB mod games: PB5, PB15, PB27, PB37, PB42, PB46, PB71. FFH games: PBEMVII, PBEMXII. Civ 6:  PBEM22 Games ded lurked: PB18
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Well England is gone and I imagine Chev will take Indonesia so Spain might actually be free? Spain and Portugal sounds like suicide against Indonesia and Norway on separate teams.
Current games (All): RtR: PB80 Civ 6: PBEM23

Ended games (Selection): BTS games: PB1, PB3, PBEM2, PBEM4, PBEM5B, PBEM50. RB mod games: PB5, PB15, PB27, PB37, PB42, PB46, PB71. FFH games: PBEMVII, PBEMXII. Civ 6:  PBEM22 Games ded lurked: PB18
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