[PB72] Xist10 plays far to home

[superdeath]

I think, I will take the war combination.
Rome with Boudicca (AGG/CHA)

without even seeing your start? Bold.

[xist10]

I thought, we should choose before we get to see the start ?

[superdeath]

Nah, seeing your start before choosing lets you potentially choose a civ/leader choice that better suits your Potentially fish/hunting/agriculture ect start.

They gave us the block of choices so that we could have a rough idea of what we might like to play.

[xist10]

okay, than I will take that back.
Thanks

[Krill]

[xist10]

Thanks.

What do we have ?
1. The south seems to be the map border ? - Question: Whats to map form ? Flat, torus or cylinder ?
2. 2x wet plains wheat - Agriculture
3. 1x Coastfish - fishing
4. 1x Elephants - hunting

I would like a agriculture civ, maybe with hunting or with mining.
Fishing could be acceptable too.

I have Persia, Agriculture/Hunting is good, but I don't like the UU or the UB.
Rome has Fishing and Mining. China has Agriculture/Mining.
But I think, starttechs are not very important.
Research Agriculture and built a worker is possible.
So I wouldn't change my choice, Boudicca of Rome.

Startplan would be: Worker- Workboat
and Agriculture-Bronze Working

[superdeath]

Sounds fair. Im not a simmer, but i would hope that 2 wet wheat beat out a fish in terms of what to get going first. Now, if they had been rice...

[xist10]

To make it clear:
I would like to enter Boudicca of Rome.

[xist10]

Game should start tomorrow.
Picks are published:
Aetryn is Vicky/Mali (FIN/IMP; Skirmisher, Mint)
Xist is Boudicca/Rome (AGG/CHA; Praetorian, Forum)
Bing is KK/Aztecs (AGG/CRE; Jaguar, Sacrifial Altar)
Greenline is Mao/Byzantine (PRO/EXP; Cataphract, Hippodrom)

This is Aetryn's first game. In comparisons, his Dedlurker (Mjmd) plays/played in 10+ games.
I like the Fin/Imp a lot in BtS. Fin got a nerf in CtH, Imp didn't change, so I think the combination got quite a hit. Even with that, Aetryn can produce his settlers more quickly and has a easier to manage his economy.
Skirmisher can be a nightmare to fight against them - I still remember my first PC-game, where I lost knights to skirmishers. But Skirmisher are archers and so not a good offensiv unit. But I think, my praetorians should win against skirmisher.
The mint is a forge replacement. I liked it more than the Skirmisher.

Summary: I think a good leader, a okay civ and maybe the weakest player (but in comparasion maybe the strongest dedlurker).


Bing played a few games recently. But I think, he won none of them ? And isn't in a position to win one of his active games ?
His PB69 games had maybe a good shot, but he lost against his neighbours. And he has no dedlurker here.
Agg good a buff and can maybe keep up with Fin. Cre remains unchanged and isn't the strongest trait, but I think one of the most convenient traints.
I think, Cha is better, but I need to built my (cheap) monument.
Jaguar is okay. I think, the unit has it's place, but I don't think it's very strong. Still, its change the swordmen from a unit I would built to a unit, where one or two should be possible. doublemover through jungle/forest is easy and annoying.
The Sacrifial Altar is maybe one of the best UB. You can whip twice as fast - I think, happiness should no longer be the deciding factor, and courthouses are relatively good (in the deity civforum PB) anyway.

Summary: Maybe the strongest player, but no dedlurker. okay/good leader, good civ.

I think, Greenline played 3 games 7 years ago. He placed second (of 4) in the first game ? Seems to be a more of a beginner game, but still. Tarkeel had 5 or 6 games (how do I count teams and/or clearly dedlurker ?). He did relativ well. 
Pro got a significant buff, Exp got a (small) nerf. I think, one of the weaker combinations here ? maybe I understate the cheap granarys, but ...
The Cataphract could be roughly as dominant as my praetorians. Knights with strength 12 are strong. Problem: Knights are late enough that you need to survive long enoung and knights have a few counters (pikes, longbows (behind walls/castles) (and elefants), that you need a tech advantage and/or siegeunits.
The Hippodrom lost the artist slots ? But 1 and 1 with horses is upgrade, but theaters are relativ late and not on the main path.

Summary: I hope not a experienced player and not the best dedlurker. And I think the weakest leader and a difficult civ. If Greenline gets knight (with a tech advantage), he has a chance to win the game. But Greenline has no early advantages from his civ.

[Krill]

Sounds fair. Im not a simmer, but i would hope that 2 wet wheat beat out a fish in terms of what to get going first. Now, if they had been rice...

Suggestion: Look at the micro for variant starts before assuming you know which one is best.

Also, you shouldn't need a sim to work out hammer and food output for the first 30 turns of a game. If you can count to 60 that's enough.