[Spoiler] PBEM12 Lurker thread - No players!

[SevenSpirits]

It's good you didn't check the civs before putting the map together, that would be unfair.

But I wonder what the effects of Duel are going to be. (Maybe a bit too influential a decision to make as a joke?) It's going to increase number of cities maintenance by 50% over a standard size map and decrease distance maintenance comparably (by 37.5%). Weird! There's also effects on building national wonders and overall tech costs and some other stuff...

[T-hawk]

But I wonder what the effects of Duel are going to be.... There's also effects on building national wonders and overall tech costs and some other stuff...

The big one is corporate resource productivity. On Duel, it's *four* times that of a standard map. Cereal Mills is 0.75 food per resource on a standard map, but 3 food per cereal resource on a duel size map! Mining Inc scales the same way, 4 hammers per mine resource.

[Ruff_Hi]

hmm - guess I won't be putting together a map quick again without getting it vetted. Well - it is the same for everyone (I think I may be saying that a lot re this map).

[luddite]

The big one is corporate resource productivity. On Duel, it's *four* times that of a standard map. Cereal Mills is 0.75 food per resource on a standard map, but 3 food per cereal resource on a duel size map! Mining Inc scales the same way, 4 hammers per mine resource.

wow. That will be huge, if the game goes on long enough for someone to get a corporation. It would be funny if none of the players realize this, and discover it by accident.

[Krill]

Isn't the price per food constant though? or is it price per resource that remains constant?

[Ruff_Hi]

Now that some of the players are outside of their initial revealed zone, here is a picture of the full map ...



The squares have been offset against each other by about a 3rd and either rotated or flipped. I think that 2 of the squares are identical. Each square has 3 water tiles in each corner - putting the squares together turns that into a small lake of 6 tiles. The players should work out that those lakes are their 'fair' land borders.

I don't know who is where.

Also, I hope we don't need the admin password because I think that I have forgotten it

[novice]

Now that some of the players are outside of their initial revealed zone, here is a picture of the full map ...



The squares have been offset against each other by about a 3rd and either rotated or flipped. I think that 2 of the squares are identical. Each square has 3 water tiles in each corner - putting the squares together turns that into a small lake of 6 tiles. The players should work out that those lakes are their 'fair' land borders.

I don't know who is where.

Also, I hope we don't need the admin password because I think that I have forgotten it

Apart from the India bias, that is a cool map. What software did you use to make it?

[Ruff_Hi]

Apart from the India bias, that is a cool map. What software did you use to make it?

Here are the steps I used ...

• I created a x by x map in civ and then got it exactly how I wanted it
  
• created a WB save
  
• cut and pasted the map info into excel
  
• designed the replication and tile swapping layout in excel
  
• wrote a macro that read the map info from the WB info and then cycled through the larger (6x) map and built up the WB file for the larger game
  

There are some tile stuff that I ignored (teamreveal for one). I then used this approach to create the map.

@Amelia - to start a pbem game, use the following:

1. start BtS
   
2. start a single player game
   
3. select the various options the game needs (barbs, tech trading, speed, etc)
   
4. put in the leaders and civs in the required play order
   
5. start the game
   
6. open WB, save the WB file (Scenario A)
   
7. quit the game
   
8. jump out to file explorer, find the WB save (Scenario A) you just created and scroll down to the line that starts with 'BeginMap' - delete everything past that line
   
9. open your WB file with your designed map (Scenario B)
   
10. scroll down to the line that starts with 'BeginMap', highlight everything past that line, copy
    
11. now back to the WB file where you deleted all of the map info (Scenario A) and paste the copied map info
    
12. save the file
    

I'll tidy up what I have and post it.

[Maksim]

So does the Duel map size mean that the tech rate will be speeded up considerably compared to the regular game, or is it not such a big factor in the end?

[T-hawk]

So does the Duel map size mean that the tech rate will be speeded up considerably compared to the regular game, or is it not such a big factor in the end?

Duel map size means that techs cost 1.0 of the base XML values, and it's 1.3 on a normal size map. 23% faster (.3/1.3) is somewhat significant, roughly like an extra library in each city. The real speedup will be slightly less with higher maintenance costs once some more cities are founded.