Because we might as well lurk it! [lurkers thread, no players]

[WilliamLP]

Apparently it's dangerous to speak either of the Devil or PB14 around these parts.

[DMOC]

Not really, it is a game that has been played out incredibly sub-optimal fashion in places, regardless of personal opinions. That is not a generalization, that's truth.

All right, but just remember that we're having fun (at least, I am) with PB 14, so we're trying to do our best there, especially with the limited time I have.

[Krill]

Honestly, so long as you are all having fun then who cares if the game is being played in an (objectively) skillful manner? It's not like playing CIV is anyone's job.

[Commodore]

I haven't followed PB14 lately, but above comments are quite harsh and definitely generalize too much. There are quite many players involved in that game and I'm sure that their performances (and behaviour?) vary.

Realms Beyond is extremely elitist. I suppose every community has it's faults.

Indeed. But I don't think that's one of the community's faults. More of an asset.

[Merovech]

Ehh. It can be a little cruel. It's possible to be elite and proud without being elitist, just hard.

[SevenSpirits]

I haven't followed PB14 lately, but above comments are quite harsh and definitely generalize too much. There are quite many players involved in that game and I'm sure that their performances (and behaviour?) vary.

Realms Beyond is extremely elitist. I suppose every community has it's faults.

Indeed. But I don't think that's one of the community's faults. More of an asset.

In what way is elitism an asset?

[Commodore]

I haven't followed PB14 lately, but above comments are quite harsh and definitely generalize too much. There are quite many players involved in that game and I'm sure that their performances (and behaviour?) vary.

Realms Beyond is extremely elitist. I suppose every community has it's faults.

Indeed. But I don't think that's one of the community's faults. More of an asset.

In what way is elitism an asset?

Cleaner streets. Safer schools. More punctuation. Jowy-types get a lot of funny abuse. Wins all around!

[Commodore]

Ehh. It can be a little cruel. It's possible to be elite and proud without being elitist, just hard.

I've seen the rankings, you got gypped. Sometimes cruelty is just cruel.

[SevenSpirits]

I haven't followed PB14 lately, but above comments are quite harsh and definitely generalize too much. There are quite many players involved in that game and I'm sure that their performances (and behaviour?) vary.

Realms Beyond is extremely elitist. I suppose every community has it's faults.

Indeed. But I don't think that's one of the community's faults. More of an asset.

In what way is elitism an asset?

Cleaner streets. Safer schools. More punctuation. Jowy-types get a lot of funny abuse. Wins all around!

I don't see how you get those things by thinking you're better than other people. And look! More punctuation isn't always good:

Realms Beyond is extremely elitist. I suppose every community has it's faults.

"It's"? Every community has it is faults? Really Jowy?

[Gaspar]

I haven't read any of PB14 or this, but I was greatly entertained by the above 19 posts.

FWIW, I don't think elitist is an accurate representation. On the whole, I think RB is very welcoming to new players, which is not characteristic of elitists. What we ARE is hyper-critical, which while often entertaining, can also drive people away from the community. Combining that with a vocal handful of the community which is clearly elite, leads to the elitism claim.