[SPOILERS] Scooticator and Pindooter give a sporting try

[spacetyrantxenu]

I'd like to hear the story of how you managed to donate someone else's blood. This should be fun.

[scooter]

Yuck. I hate to admit it but we're probably going to have to put the plan on hold. Maybe even shuttle back to the mainland...

Yeah, this smells like a suicide mission. So, one thought. I'm sure mackoti knows we can see that Frigate. Tend to think he's just trying to show it to us so we don't try anything rather than he's showing up to blockade and pillage. I could be wrong, I just think he'd come out of the fog a little more sneakily if he was looking to do damage. I don't know that it changes anything for us, just thought I'd note that. We're both getting some pretty lucrative trade routes from each other, and declaring war nukes those routes pretty badly, so to do so for anything other than self-defense would be a questionable decision for either of us at this point.

The extra factor here is Plako. If us and mackoti really fight over the seas and invest in that, Plako gets back into this game and becomes a real contender. I don't think we really want that to happen, and I doubt he does either.

I could be off - those are just some random thoughts that were going through my head about this.

[NobleHelium]

It wasn't me, it was scooter! We have photographic evidence!

[pindicator]

I think it's one frigate for show. He's pretty much saying "don't mess with me or else you'll see more of these"

[scooter]

I think it's one frigate for show. He's pretty much saying "don't mess with me or else you'll see more of these"

That's what I'm thinking/hoping. Just let us capture this stuff from Black Sword in peace, mackoti, and we'll be good. Hopefully.

[SevenSpirits]

ho ho ho ,now i have a frigate

[pindicator]

ho ho ho ,now i have a frigate

[scooter]

Turn 172

Greeted by some weird offer from Ichabod:



Ignored it. Mackoti's Frigate is just shadowing us for now:



His power quickly has rebounded, so I really don't think OH can do anything more to him. That window is probably gone - mack has more power, more tech, and probably triple the production of Old Harry.

Anyway, I dialed science back to the minimum required to complete Astro. We'll have 781 gold to play with next turn in terms of galley-galleon upgrades. It would be nice to shut science off immediately and upgrade all our galleys, but I think we're gonna have to be choosy on what we upgrade and when considering mackoti will have Drydocks in a few turns, and that'll probably be trouble for us - we'll need all the gold we can get for teching. Here's a little further north:



So I'm ready to start planning the specifics on the invasion of Black Sword's main island, but I'm pretty nervous about mackoti interfering. Right now we're OK, but if he floats a frigate or two up north, it could easily screw up staging tiles and whatnot. I think we should still go ahead with it, but we're going to need to be super careful. I think it's pretty crucial that we line ourselves up to be able to take as many as 4 cities in one turn, which I think is really doable with what we already have (assuming some Galleon upgrades). As it stands, I'm kinda thinking we definitely need Military Science immediately after Chemistry - which we were kinda thinking anyway. We already wanted Grens, and building some SoL will be crucial for Frigates.

Any thoughts from you, pindicator? I've played, but I've left it un-ended since we probably need to discuss a bit. I know you're not usually around a lot on Wednesday nights, but I'm planning on being around tonight, so hopefully we won't completely miss each other.

[pindicator]

This is our window. If you don't attack mackoti now then you're hoping you can out tech him unmolested. And if you do that then i'd expand away from mackoti, not towards him

[scooter]

This is our window. If you don't attack mackoti now then you're hoping you can out tech him unmolested. And if you do that then i'd expand away from mackoti, not towards him

I don't think I'm really understanding what you're suggesting? I definitely do think we're capable of teching right along with him, and we have plenty of expansion options now and in the future.