[SPOILERS - PBEM17] regoarrarr - Bismarck of Inca

[regoarrarr]

This game has not had much diplo in it, but let's change that!

I had a long chat with Shoot which I won't paste in, but the gist was basically that he needs more land and soon or he's going to be irrelevant. Which I can understand.

Then this morning, facing a 3v1, I tried to head off a 4v1 with an email to spaceman

Well apparently last turn was "National cancel your NAP with regoarrarr" day :-(

Well technically it was 2 civs (Shoot and darrell) giving their cool down notice and the 3rd (oledavy) declined to sign one.

You will see before me if he (Dave) declared war on me.

My military is not non-existent - I just got Rifling and I am in Nationhood, so I won't be a patsy, but with 2-3 folks also drafting rifles, it's not going to be pretty.

So basically I wanted to catch up with you and see if you were going to pile on too! I guess I couldn't blame you since after all, I did it to you early on, right? ON the other hand, I know that you and Shoot have been somewhat at odds and you and I are also somewhat far away.

So if you are not going to pile on, might I suggest some aid on our part? I could certainly see if you'd prefer to just sit on the sidelines while the #1 guy in score gets beat on a bit (I think this is what darrell plans to do). On the other hand, this is probably Shoot's last gasp. Tech and land-wise, if he doesn't make a move now, he's going to be pretty irrelevant (which is what he alluded to me as his main reason for attacking now in a chat last night).

I know that you guys have made some talks about feeling like you need some more land too. So maybe we could work something out? That was the kinds of details that I wanted to chat about.

Anyways hope to see you around soon and enjoy your holiday

[regoarrarr]

Turn-wise, I did not attack oledavy and pulled my frigates back, with the hopes that I can attack him if he moves in. If he wants to take any of my cities he better have a lot of muskets to attack amphibiously. If he lands them, then I can upgrade to rifles.

My suspicion is that he will wait a few turns and upgrade his muskets (and probably some CR2 maces) to rifles.

[regoarrarr]

One other thing is that Shoot, even with Galleons, which he does not currently have (he lacks Astro and Chemistry), can not move out of the fog to attack any of my cities



I would assume that he'll be going for Astro and then Chemistry next (though he must have finished a tech this past turn, because even though I got tech visibility on him it didn't show anything).

Still, if I can get enough Frigates in the area, I might be able to stop any landings

[Profane]

What if oledavy gifted East Indiamen to his war allies? Or is that disallowed if the receiving party does not have the prerequisite techs?

[regoarrarr]

What if oledavy gifted East Indiamen to his war allies? Or is that disallowed if the receiving party does not have the prerequisite techs?

No that would be allowed and something that I've thought about. Mostly in reverse though, like Shoot the Moon gifting oledavy Rifles or Catapults.

I would interpret that as violating our (Shoot and my) NAP, but you could certainly talk your way around it

Plus it's certainly on the table in 5t.

[regoarrarr]

I have not noticed any odd things in the power graph (like dips from the gifting power) but that doesn't mean they couldn't have been smart about it and tried to hide it

[regoarrarr]

Save back

No war declaration but both Shoot and Oledavy closed borders

[regoarrarr]

Techs:

Darrell - Chemistry
Nospace - Aesthetics
Oledavy - Construction
Shoot - Engineering

On the way to Chemistry for Dave and shoot (Shoot also lacks Astro currently)

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Okay brief pre-turn update

This is where I left things.



Could not get much into Sciz, but I piled my Frigates there to see if they could slow down things.





Oledavy has informed me that he declared this turn, razed Sciz and captured Tatan, which is a city to the south of Sciz. I didn't think his (visible) galleys could get that far and I believe it was undefended.

So not a great turn, of course. I'll give a better report when the save comes in

[regoarrarr]

Okay for whatever reason that wouldn't post this afternoon, and from oledavy's posts, you can see that I've had some damage.

I will post here shortly