I found out that I was wrong earlier in this thread when I mentioned the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. Even though it's been reviewed by many state senates and houses it's only been signed by democrat-leaning states. It doesn't look like it's going to get enough support until what happened to the Dems this year happens to the Reps.
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(November 12th, 2016, 15:13)AdrienIer Wrote: I found out that I was wrong earlier in this thread when I mentioned the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. Even though it's been reviewed by many state senates and houses it's only been signed by democrat-leaning states. It doesn't look like it's going to get enough support until what happened to the Dems this year happens to the Reps.The problem is that it's never going to happen to the republicans--their support is generally in smaller states, while the democrats are concentrated in larger states--even Texas is starting to turn purple now (and that was a big reason why Clinton won the popular vote).
Might I remind you that Chelsea is married to a former hedge fund manager? She has just that same weakness as Hillary.
(November 12th, 2016, 20:43)ipecac Wrote: I'm not sure how another Clinton defeat would be displeasing. Political differences aside, the reason is one of the most important lessons of this election: It doesn't matter who might be "defeated." If the only two candidates with a chance on election day were J. Danforth Quayle and a culture of flesh-eating bacteria, I would vote for Quayle, but I wouldn't celebrate the bacteria's defeat; I'd be too busy trying to find a way to ensure that by the time the next election came, we'd have a better option. I don't understand the loathing that exists across so much of America for the Clinton family, but except insofar as the underlying causes also relate to other political motivations, it no longer concerns me. We as a country need to find more common ground - find it literally in the sense of rediscovering and acknowledging where it is - and candidates capable of forwarding realistic plans to meet the country's actual needs that voters can support in lieu of, "Ugh, let's defeat that other terrible candidate!" (November 9th, 2016, 15:49)Dreylin Wrote:(November 9th, 2016, 15:43)AdrienIer Wrote:(November 9th, 2016, 15:35)Bobchillingworth Wrote: France is the next nation to watch as the wave of reactionary nationalism continues to crash about the West. (November 9th, 2016, 16:05)AdrienIer Wrote: I know that after Brexit and Trump you have doubts, but last year's regional elections made it clear that the Le Pen family was not going to win nationally anytime soon, as they couldn't even win the regions most favorable to them. So how does Juppe's loss to Fillon change the equation?
November 28th, 2016, 04:23
(This post was last modified: November 28th, 2016, 04:24 by AdrienIer.)
Changes a lot of things. His economic policies are insane but on the other hand he'll be taking the crazy catholics away from Le Pen. For the first time I'm wondering if the left (in some form) could make a comeback.
(November 28th, 2016, 04:23)AdrienIer Wrote: Changes a lot of things. His economic policies are insane but on the other hand he'll be taking the crazy catholics away from Le Pen. For the first time I'm wondering if the left (in some form) could make a comeback. I actually think this makes a Le Pen victory more likely. Essentially she is very unlikely to win a standard run off against the centre right. If Bayrou throws his hat in the ring, along with Fillion/Macron/Melenchon, turnout differential could place Le Pen up against anyone - I think her support is solid enough to always reach the end 2. If it were Le Pen vs a left candidate I would be betting on Le Pen to win it. It would be like 2002 with Jospein/Le Pen/Chirac... (November 28th, 2016, 04:23)AdrienIer Wrote: Changes a lot of things. His economic policies are insane but on the other hand he'll be taking the crazy catholics away from Le Pen. For the first time I'm wondering if the left (in some form) could make a comeback.Isn't Le Pen the left (in some form)? Looking at the economics platform it looks that way this side of the pond.
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