[SPOILERS] scooter's PB53

[Charriu]

The wording isn't clear about that. My intention was to just affect trade routes, not access to resources.
But what I noticed on closer inspection. Does the city still have a road connection? It looks like there is none anymore?

[Old Harry]

I'd assume trade routes include commerce and resource trades - otherwise you can't stop someone gifting iron, etc with a blockade.

I should probably go to the CtH thread and argue that the RtR implementation (stopping tile use and trade but only over a 9-tile area) is easier to understand and less powerful.

[scooter]

That's unfortunate. I mean, it's better than vanilla BtS, but just barely.


Turn is played. If TBS does backstab me like it seems he plans to for no apparent reason instead of taking absolutely free Dutch cities and getting himself back into the game, I probably concede. He's not the type to blindly kingmake, but it sure looks like he plans to, so whatever. Maybe he gets a look at the situation and changes his mind, who knows.

[NobleHelium]

Trade routes and resource trading/connection are intricately connected, stopping one stops the other. And I don't think they should be decoupled either.

If you don't like it then I could see going with the RtR implementation instead.

[sunrise089]

Noble, a blockade of a coastal with a road connection to another non-blockaded city on the same landmass will still get resources, right?

[Charriu]

Noble, a blockade of a coastal with a road connection to another non-blockaded city on the same landmass will still get resources, right?

I just tested that.




As you can see Angkor Thom, Angkor Wat and Yasodharapura are all under a blockade by the enemy privateer. 

Angkor Thom still had access to the corn, because it has a road connection to that resource. It does not have any other resources, because it does only have coastal trade connections with the other cities. This also means that the other cities don't have access to corn in that example.

Angkor Wat has no access to any resources, because it only has coastal trade connections and the clam is under the blockade. It can still work the clam tile.

Yasodharapura has still access to copper, pigs, gold, gems and the  fish. Because it still has a access to all resources via road and the fish is not blockaded.

Nagara Jayasari and the southern city all have access to the same resources as Yasodharapura.

EDIT: Also if I move the privateer down so that it only blockades the southern city, then that city will still receive the corn from Angkor Thom, which is connected to the southern city via coastal from Angkor Thom to Yasodharapura and from there via road to the southern city.

This all sounds very logical to me.

EDIT2: Even with the RtR implementation the result for this specific city of scooters would be the same with regard to access to resources.

[NobleHelium]

Yes, blockades do not affect land trade connections. This is all well and fine and I don't see a need to change this.

As for scooter not getting Astronomy and his galleon, that's under #fuckpitboss.

[sunrise089]

Thanks Charriu. This would fall under ‘works as intended’ for me then.

[scooter]

I concede to Commodore. TBS declared and moved everything in against Bigfoot. Nice kingmaking TBS, very cool! If you want out of the game that bad, ask for a replacement.

That should be the game, right?

[scooter]

Here's the state of things.





Chemtrails will survive this upcoming turn. He doesn't have enough yet. Maybe he has more coming.





These two stacks constitute almost literally every single unit Cornflakes has left. This is understandable, but also never would happen because he has an angry neighbor in the other direction, right?





Instead of taking advantage of this to capture completely undefended Dutch cities from THE PLAYER WHO RUINED HIS GAME REPEATEDLY he's going to dogpile on me, the person who SINGLE-HANDEDLY KEPT HIS CIV ALIVE in order to what, capture a city Commodore will just take from him later? Okay man.


Commodore will join in 3T, and he will have a swath of lightly defended cities to take because I've shifted everything in this direction. Neither of these guys have any chance at winning, so it's GG. I'll play out one more turn so Cornflakes gets the satisfaction of capturing something, and then I'll peace out.