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[spoiler] Civac fixes it (again)

Zula start with Agric and Hunting ... the two cheapest techs there are smile
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(October 22nd, 2014, 10:52)Caledorn Wrote: And ruff is officially banned from playing in my games as a reward for ruining my big surprise by posting silly and correct theories in the PB18 tech thread.
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BT starts are almost always stronger. We need in relatively short time Agriculture, Mining, Animal Husbandry, Bronzeworking and Fishing. Hunting would be nice too. BT also comes in 12 turns there is not that much time.
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Anyway, time zone is GMT +1 here. I will not be concious for the next few hours.

Khmer could be an interesting choice though they will likely be taken by the time the snake curls around again.
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BTW ... word of the day is pantophagous

Eating all kinds or a great variety of food.
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(October 22nd, 2014, 10:52)Caledorn Wrote: And ruff is officially banned from playing in my games as a reward for ruining my big surprise by posting silly and correct theories in the PB18 tech thread.
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Khmer just got taken.
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(October 22nd, 2014, 10:52)Caledorn Wrote: And ruff is officially banned from playing in my games as a reward for ruining my big surprise by posting silly and correct theories in the PB18 tech thread.
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Yeah, I am also considering China. There is no sinergy at all but a lot of raw power. Optimal starting techs are likely Fishing/Mining but the civs who have that (England, Portugal, Rome) are otherwise not very appealing.

What is your take on the civ choice?
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Mining and Fishing civs ... so we can build fishing boats and go on a direct run for BW.

Carthage - Num Cav (Horse Archer with extra Melee bonus), Cothon (replaces harbor and gives +1 trade)
English - ha!
Portuges - Carrack (caravel that can carry 2), Some form of supped up custom house (I have never build a CHouse)
Roman - Praet (Str 8 Sword), Forum (market replacement for +25% GP)
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(October 22nd, 2014, 10:52)Caledorn Wrote: And ruff is officially banned from playing in my games as a reward for ruining my big surprise by posting silly and correct theories in the PB18 tech thread.
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(September 25th, 2020, 19:51)civac2 Wrote: BT starts are almost always stronger. We need in relatively short time Agriculture, Mining, Animal Husbandry, Bronzeworking and Fishing. Hunting would be nice too. BT also comes in 12 turns there is not that much time.

What is BT?

We can delay Agric as we have fish (need fishing and fishing boat).
Need BW and worker to chop some forests (we have a few)
Animal Husb for the cows and to find the horses

No point in landing BW without a worker.

We can build a fishing boat in 6 turns (6x5h).  Not sure we can tech fishing in 6 turns.  So I think fishing should be one of our techs.
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(October 22nd, 2014, 10:52)Caledorn Wrote: And ruff is officially banned from playing in my games as a reward for ruining my big surprise by posting silly and correct theories in the PB18 tech thread.
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Civs with fishing ...

As above plus ..
America
Dutch*
Greek
Japan*
Spain
Viking*

I am partial to the ones with * as they will also bring some very nice UBs or UUs.

Note I am playing Japan in pitboss54
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(October 22nd, 2014, 10:52)Caledorn Wrote: And ruff is officially banned from playing in my games as a reward for ruining my big surprise by posting silly and correct theories in the PB18 tech thread.
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BT = worker

Fishing boat first is interesting. Would help with the early commerce needs.

Note that after border expansion we have a 4 yield tile in the elephants. If we move to the western plains hill we get it from turn 1.
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