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Diplomacy Master Thread- Helping Your Opponents Beat Themselves

(July 18th, 2013, 22:14)kalin Wrote:
(July 18th, 2013, 22:12)Ellimist Wrote: We can raze the two remaining tundra cities and let them resettle.

That we can do, but it's only worth doing if that would patch our relations enough... If WPC ends up still unhappy and hostile then we shouldn't bother. I also doubt there will be much support for this anyway.

Kalin

I'm also unsure that there will be much support for this on our team, but I do think such a gesture would go a long way toward mending relations with them. In general, people tend to be more concerned about avoiding loss than opportunities for gain. They might not be totally satisfied, but it lets them avoid the perception that they got absolutely nothing out of the war.
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If I were WPC, I'd roll my eyes at the oh so gracious offer of being allowed to settle two cities in the frozen tundra. It would probably piss me off more. That's why I think it's a bad idea.

Also because the cities would be 95% isolated from their culture so what's the point.
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scooter, we really need a screenshot of what things look like in the captured Huron River for our planning. Tell WPC that we'll get their city back for them, whatever it takes to stop their bitching, but our life this turn is 100% easier if we can see exactly where the German units outside our vision (and inside WPC culture) are located. Thanks. More about to be posted in Turn Discussion thread on this.
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Thinking more about what we can do about WPC, I am starting to think that the damage is already done in terms of perception from other teams etc. I am not sure that allowing WPC to resettle some tundra spots will be able to alleviate the fact that we did take all the German's good land. As to WPC, we'll liberate Huron city and that will be our gesture... That unless they can recapture it themselves.

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Sent this immediately. Usual apologies for lack of a review process, but it seemed prudent to get this sent ASAP.

RB Wrote:Beta,

Quick pause in the bigger discussions. The German team rolled the turn, so we popped into the game. We will do everything in our power to get your city back for you, but in order to be able to do that we really are going to need screenshots of all their units in the region if that's possible. We'll happily go in and kill their units, but as of right now we'd be going in blind which isn't very productive. Sorry to rush you, but the quicker the better on this, so we can plan out the smartest way to do it.

Thanks!
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They have every right to be pissed but I think the more table scraps we can offer them and more we help them reclaim their rightful city of Huron, the less likely they'll do everything in their power to fuck us over.
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I propose that we offer Nicolae Carpathia on a stick to WPC.
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We shouldn't 'get their city back for them', nor should we 'liberate' it. We should help them get it back. If that means that we take down the majority of the German forces and let them kill the last few units, then that is what we do. It should be good XP for us and we might even get our 3rd GG out of it.
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(July 18th, 2013, 22:39)Ruff_Hi Wrote: We shouldn't 'get their city back for them', nor should we 'liberate' it. We should help them get it back. If that means that we take down the majority of the German forces and let them kill the last few units, then that is what we do. It should be good XP for us and we might even get our 3rd GG out of it.

I don't think anyone is actually suggesting we literally capture it, we are all aware that city gifting is banned. Goes without saying we'll just clear it and let them finish it and take it.
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Here's a an interesting idea: let's publicly ask about it, that is if liberating a city is allowed? Should serve a dual purpose!

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