Josh's Civ 4 memoir. Chapter 2

[Tarkeel]

Thanks, that was the kind of details I wanted. Hopefully we have a resolution soon.

[joshybravo963]

Thanks, that was the kind of details I wanted. Hopefully we have a resolution soon.

But does that mean he still gets 2nd turn spllit? even though he waited and logged out 20 secs after me?

[Amicalola]

Oh, I actually must have misunderstood you earlier, Joshy, I'm sorry. I thought we had moved ALL units in the civ, and were just still in game. What you're saying is much worse, actually.

[Tarkeel]

Due to an issue regarding turn-splits, we have to reload to near the start of T99. You should try to replay the turn as close to what you did the first time around.

This affects you directly; you should play after Jesse (for as long as the war lasts) and before Bellarch (untill the settler race is resolved)

[Tarkeel]

I have a message for you from Mjmd/Bellarch:

"Under the current rules Joshy would be first in turn order because when the settler race was discovered Joshy was first. However, Joshy double moved T97 into T98 (the turn of discovery). We feel that this is unfair and a clear example of how the current rule set is broken. We propose a lurker flip a coin to determine turn order."

[Tarkeel]

Remember josh that you loged when i loged on turn 98, and also you keep playing while i was playing turn 99, they reloaded when i left the game, so your only units with move are those that you needed to move after i logged out of the game.

right, but now since jessel gets first turn split, he can go again, so he can double move his chariots and retake yet another city before i have the chance to defend myself. The units in the area have not moved once since war was declared. Jessels units will have moved twice, I dont think thats quite fair. Why not just reload from when the new turn began?

I'm not sure exactly which save Charriu reloaded, but it was supposed to be one in T99 where you had yet to play. Jesse moved first and replayed as before the reload, so his units are spent for the turn. Are you saying that yours are spent as well?

[joshybravo963]

Remember josh that you loged when i loged on turn 98, and also you keep playing while i was playing turn 99, they reloaded when i left the game, so your only units with move are those that you needed to move after i logged out of the game.

right, but now since jessel gets first turn split, he can go again, so he can double move his chariots and retake yet another city before i have the chance to defend myself. The units in the area have not moved once since war was declared. Jessels units will have moved twice, I dont think thats quite fair. Why not just reload from when the new turn began?

I'm not sure exactly which save Charriu reloaded, but it was supposed to be one in T99 where you had yet to play. Jesse moved first and replayed as before the reload, so his units are spent for the turn. Are you saying that yours are spent as well?

Yes they are spent, since i was logged in the same time that vanrober was. and the game was reloaded after vanrobers turn ended. is it possible to reload at the beginning of the turn?

[Charriu]

I've reloaded to when vanrober logged out at the beginning of turn 99. I think what I and other lurkers did not realize is that you stayed in game from 98 to 99, but you ended your turn later in T99

[joshybravo963]

ah yes, i can see how complicated the situation is and will try to not delay and end turns quicker, and also to not log in while neighbours are playing. Sorry for this mess guys! could we reload at the beginning of the turn please? ill play after jessel and before bellarch

[civac2]

You can play while others are logged in, including neighbors. Exception to this is if there is a situation which requires a turn oder like war or settler races. For example, if you are about to declare war don't login while the target is online.