T-hawk Wrote:Am I misreading you?
Trading 2h for 1f is bad, yet that's pretty much exactly what that second comparison is?
2h is better than 1f. The signs run in opposite directions: I'm saying -1f +2h is a good trade in both cases.
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Cyneheard Tries Again: PBEM22, Joao I of IV of Inca
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Realization:
The last part will go to my NATIONAL PARK city. 11 forests. Without a doubler, that NP city gets +160% production on a spaceship part. Can I 1t the 1200h Stasis Chamber from Genetics? Hm: I'd need 462 base hammers on that turn. 11 forests x 30h = 330. So I'd need 132 base hammers between GA production on that turn and overflow from the previous turn. So 134 base hammers over those two turns if I perfectly align them (not terribly difficult with some pre-planning, I suspect). In a Golden Age, I'll have: One Plains Hill RR Mine (6h) 10x plains workshops or Grass Hill RR Mines (5h) 5x grass workshops (4h) 2h in the city center = 77h Oh, and I should have built an Industrial Park in this city, so +2h there. The turn before, I only need 57 base hammers if I'm really careful, and while they'll still be 1/3 tiles and the like that turn (unchopped GA tiles), I'll also have 11 free specs to be Engineers and Citizens. So I think I can get the hammers required without too much difficulty, if I pop my 3-man Golden Age (have Eng and Sci, need GM, GA, or GPro). And I don't care if I starve; it's the last turn. Also, if I'm size 17 or 18 (size 16 right now), I get a little more room to work with.
Land Area is known through Demo screen (Gives 4 data points: Me, Max, Avg, Worst, so it's solvable):
Lewwyn has 1208 tiles Scooter has 1117 I have 1087 tiles Nakor has 793 tiles. Also, Lewwyn needs all of four techs: Fiber Optics Fusion Composites Ecology I need...uh...14. So I'm not winning this one. But I'll make a good run for it, and Lewwyn isn't being terribly efficient here at the end.
Also, my F8 is showing no data for him on the Space Race. I can't believe that he hasn't built any parts yet, so what's going on?
EDIT: Added a screenshot:
Also, WTF:
Lewwyn is saving Composites? Does he really want to worry about his 5th fastest city's inability to finish the part quickly??? Cyneheard Wrote:The last part will go to my NATIONAL PARK city. 11 forests. The Ecology part is cheaper and does have a doubler. So I always do that last. Should be easy to 1-turn that with those chops. Mostly I was just telling you to get to Fusion before both Genetics and Ecology. No idea what's up with that F8 screen. T-hawk Wrote:The Ecology part is cheaper and does have a doubler. So I always do that last. Should be easy to 1-turn that with those chops. Mostly I was just telling you to get to Fusion before both Genetics and Ecology. Well, I think since I can 1t the Genetics part, that means I end on Medicine --> Genetics, and then my IW city gets an extra turn to finish its engine. 1t with 11 chops is trivial for the Ecology part. That's 330 hammers *3.6...way more than 1000 hammers right there.
Starving matters a bit because the starved citizen doesn't work that turn, so don't count on its hammers if that matters.
Civilization IV: 21 (Bismarck of Mali), 29 (Mao Zedong of Babylon), 38 (Isabella of China), 45 (Victoria of Sumeria), PB12 (Darius of Sumeria), 56 (Hammurabi of Sumeria), PB16 (Bismarck of Mali), 78 (Augustus of Byzantium), PB56 (Willem of China)
Hearthstone: ArenaDrafts Profile No longer playing Hearthstone. 
NobleHelium Wrote:Starving matters a bit because the starved citizen doesn't work that turn, so don't count on its hammers if that matters. Good to know, although I think the food deficit is only 10f and it's just one turn that matters. Since I shouldn't be starving in that city beforehand (and if I am, then I'm like size 18 where it doesn't matter if I lose a pop; the analysis was done at size 16), the granary will have more than 10f available.
Well, I know why F8 wasn't showing me anything:
Lewwyn just finished his first part. He finished it 1450AD, and finished Apollo 1370AD. That's respectable; we're talking about 40-45 base hammers in a city that had its lab up. 8t for my IW city is Supermarket + Lab + Thruster (POSSIBLY 7t, not sure). |
