Pitboss etiquette

[superdeath]

Idea to solve 2nd half problems:

Whomever has the 2nd half of the timer, if they are in a position where ending their turn causes the turn to roll thus giving them an extra advantage in the form of seeing units/tech/ect pop on the turn roll, they could instead pause the game and/or not end their turn and instead ask an admin in the tech thread (or me via @mentions in the RB discord) to end the turn. This should solve many problems leaving the 1st half not quite as disadvantageous imo. Thoughts?

[Charriu]

We could also do that in code by combining end turn with logout in case you are in a war and you are the last player to play

[Charriu]

Idea to solve 2nd half problems:

Whomever has the 2nd half of the timer, if they are in a position where ending their turn causes the turn to roll thus giving them an extra advantage in the form of seeing units/tech/ect pop on the turn roll, they could instead pause the game and/or not end their turn and instead ask an admin in the tech thread (or me via @mentions in the RB discord) to end the turn. This should solve many problems leaving the 1st half not quite as disadvantageous imo. Thoughts?

I tested this and I now have code that does log you out, when you are at war with somebody on the turn roll. This essentially does what Superdeath proposed without the need for an admin to advance the turn. I can add this to the mods if you want it.

[NobleHelium]

I would say that negates about 1% of the second half advantage, and it's not even always present. It actually moves the game further away from sequential turns because being able to see what your opponent produced before they can move the units is the normal state for Civ4.

[superdeath]

I would say that negates about 1% of the second half advantage, and it's not even always present.  It actually moves the game further away from sequential turns because being able to see what your opponent produced before they can move the units is the normal state for Civ4.

even if its only 1%, if Charriu can mod it why not have it?

[NobleHelium]

That was answered in the second half of my post.

[Miguelito]

The goal can not be though to make it as similar to sequential as possible, even if it creates avoidable unfair advantages. In simultaneous PB you normally don't get to see what happens after turn roll, so there is no needto maintain the special advantage of playing last. Charriu's fix sounds good to me.

[Amicalola]

The goal can not be though to make it as similar to sequential as possible,  even if it creates avoidable unfair advantages. In simultaneous PB  you normally don't get to see what happens after turn roll, so there is no need to  maintain the special advantage of playing last. Charriu's fix sounds good to me.

[NobleHelium]

I would just like to clarify that the first half player can always see what the second half player produced before he moves.  Thus it is not a special advantage for the second player to also see what the first half player produced.  You can say that you want to give this advantage exclusively to the first half player as compensation, but we would not be removing some special advantage given to the second player if he is last to play.

[superdeath]

its what the 1st in turn order gets vs the 2nd in turn order getting to whip in reaction along with a ton of other amazing benefits. Helps the 1st in turn order not be the worst thing, making camping the timer not the 1 right move competitively every time or at least lessens the potential butthurt.