Werewolf 12: Game Thread

[novice]

Dudes... Turn on Eurosport!

[NobleHelium]

Eight hours until daybreak.

[Meiz]

Dudes... Turn on Eurosport!

What, they are showing D3 footage on there??

[Gaspar]

Two comments. I understand my behavior last night was irrational. Like I said, wrong frame of mind. Good frame of mind - never let Rowain get under my skin to that extent.

uberfish for someone who loses like 95% of the time you play this game, you sure talk in a lot of absolutes.

[Ichabod]

Zak switched the 5-5 tie between MNG and Rowain to 6-4, which set off the bandwagon. Then he presumably went to bed leaving MNG to hang. So I'm not sure Zak is the best lynch candidate.

Novice, novice, novice...

MNG was a dead wolf. He would never recover from his position. Don't you think he may have been sacrified by the pack? Why don't give Zak, the very experienced player, a deep cover by changing it to a 6-4 vote?

I should probably reread the thread to see if Zak's change wasn't sudden. It's nice to know that he still finds Rowain very suspicious. Zak changing from a target that he made the case to a target whose case was made by other person is also uncommon.

And isn't it possible that there are 2 wolf packs?

I'm not saying he's surely guilty. But he's very suspicious, yes. I'll wait to be prooved wrong, though.

Well, good result on the lynch.

Ichabod, since you have brought it up a couple of times now and I have not responded, the 'who Ichabod' thing was meant to read 'whole Ichabod'.

And even then i actually got things mixed up and it was infact the uberfish thing (about catwalks innocence etc) that i was refering to

Ah, now that makes sense.

That comment is always a 10 out of 10 on my scumdar. Anyway, after rereading, besides Gaspar I could also get behind a Commodore, Ichabod or Injera lynch. Commodore is simply acting scummish, Ichy and Injy seem to be in scumdar evasion mode. For that matter, with two wolf packs, MNG being a white wolf doesn't necessarily have much bearing on the Rowain case. And I really think Rowain's attempt to link MNG to Zak is odd.

Ah, so you know about 2 wolf packs... Hm... Might as well add novice to the suspect list too.

And what is scumdar detection mode for you? I can't say, but aapparently Zak agrees... Not that that is uncommon in any way, though...

[Serdoa]

Back up.

[Rowain]

You explictly stated that it can be, but in a way that it sounded for me like one would have to be a complete dumbass to not see the unbalance that would cause (not that I agree about the unbalance either...).

Not an dumbass - but getting too carried away with an idea without thinking it through completly.

Thats not what I read and I wonder how many other players didn't read it either. Your whole post was an explanation why there can only be one pack. There was no maybe in that post, imo.

I'm stating what I think to be right. And I'm also stating that I could be wrong so how many maybes do you need?

If it would give away that you are a wolf? Wouldn't be very nice to your packmates.

I think you should read WW9 (game and Lurker thread )

Simply too much confidence for my taste.

In WW7 you vigshot me on night one because my post was not sure enough for your taste and here you want me lynched because I'm too confident for you . Are you sure you know what you want?

[Catwalk]

It's not likely that a wolf would get a bandwagon on him this big on day 1 with a single wolf pack. Other evidence aside (and the rest is pretty strong too), that alone should be enough to let us conclude there are two wolf packs until we see evidence to the contrary. I don't think Rowain's theory of 1 pack makes him scum, he just likes hearing himself talk and is excited that a wolf got hung instead of himself

Gaspar's anti-defense of himself is underwhelming. In the interests of fueling the rage and poking fun:

Give me some credit, I'm a pretty good wolf.

http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showpost....tcount=694
Good luck and well played as usual. I'm definitely not cut out to be a wolf.
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1st wolf in again - I'm just not good at it unfortunately, but I don't think I had a fair shot. I'd bet heavy I was scryed, there's no other reason for that kind of consensus. I did pretty much stop trying after awhile - arguing against zakalwe is demoralizing, honestly.
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http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showpost....tcount=105
And lastly, since I didn't reply to it, no big Ichabod. I think villager is more fun than wolf because its more fun to solve puzzles than to deceive people, but I understand that wolves are a necessary prop to the game, and someone has to play them.

I'm glad to see he's done anti-defending himself, though.

[Rowain]

I don't think Rowain's theory of 1 pack makes him scum, he just likes hearing himself talk

Hello pot meet kettle

and is excited that a wolf got hung instead of himself

You forget that I called MNG a wolf right early while you did nothing usefull as usual. Not to mention this snippet

I was about to post a small defense of MNG as I think there are some flaws in the accusations against him...

:neenernee

[novice]

Ichabod, here's why I think there are two wolf packs:

The discussion thread said it was possible, the rules said it was possible - and MNG's PM said 'white werewolf pack'. You really think Noble would do this much misdirection?

With a 3-wolf pack, that means Zak is unlikely to bus a fellow wolf IMO.

Scumdar evasion mode is trying to stay under the radar, but posting enough seemingly earnest but ultimately harmless content that you're not accused of lurking.