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Looks like we don't even have to think. We're picking last.
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My guesses for pick order:
Pacal
India
Willem
Huayna
(Darius of Sumeria)
Inca
Egypt
Sury
Ottomans
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Fuck you for being right, Gaspar.
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Krill Wrote:Fuck you for being right, Gaspar.
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For the record, when Inca falls to us as I predict they will, I'd like to take Bizzy or Izzy of Inca. I understand that nobody else will, but I feel like I should put it out there before we let someone else land Pacal of Inca.
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I've been thinking about that actually.
Assuming the first three picks are are India/Pacal/Willem, then we don't have to pick Inca as last pick IF fourth pick is a leader. We can force them to take it.
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India - Pacal - Willem - hc - Darius of Sumeria - Inca - Otto - Egypt - Sury
Team 4's pick will be the most interesting. IF they pick Sumeria they are looking for Darius on the way back up since he doesn't really have synergy with anyone else and this start. Krill and I hypothosised this earlier on today for if we ended up with 4th pick. They may of course pick Inca but that would be fine as who are they going to pair them with? Issy/Bismark... meh good but not knock out. If they pick Darius they we could go Hannibal of Sumeria and promote a vertical start... lots of options. Can't really see the next two picks not being pacal and willem though.
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OK guys, FWIW I'm going to be around in approximately 12 hours, and then 23-24 hours from now, and I'm not going to have much time at all to comment, so it's up to you guys to come to a conclusion of what combination to pick.
Please don't fuck it up.
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Well, I would be more interested in Bismarck of Inca than Darius of Sumeria but I suspect I'm in the minority. I would bet my life Parkin takes HC, that's the lead-pipe lock of the round. You're talking Parkin and a bunch of CFC guys.
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Krill and I spent a little while yesterday doing the snake pick for everyone and putting TEAM at 4th and 5th spot. As it transpires we are at 5th spot which is a little bit of a surpise. We were pretty confident that the 1st 3 picks were going to be Pacal, Willem and India in any order so all our sims it was all about the 4th and 5th picks.
The reason we value Darius of Sumeria so highly is:
- Starting techs are great agri/wheel. There are quite a few options off the bat that make good sense. Hunting - AH - Pottery isn't a bad shout but there are lots of other options to discuss.
ORG is going to be very useful as maintenance is still going to be big on this map. See PBEM17 for a 52x52 Standard/Prince/Toroid map. We have also been told of islands that we can settle with a galley so we can have cheap lighthouses on top of cheap Ziggurats - which come at priesthood instead of CoL. (A bit of a red herring imo as we probably won't be building many until we are almost at CoL anyway but they may be useful pre CoL).
FIN - is strong as ever. No further comment really.
What other choices will we have?
Izzy/Bizzy of Inca - SPI/IND and EXP Inca. (Myst/Agri)
Both very good choices - I prefer Izzy a little maybe. Starting techs are ok for this start. Doesn't need to build monuments or worry about culture.
Hannibal of Sumeria. CHA/FIN with agri/wheel
Same starting techs but stronger military in particular: Horses and boats which may be important on this map.
PBEM17 is actually a pretty good comaparson for this game. Bismark/Inca was picked in that game by regoarrarr and although he ended up in front by the mid game it all went horribly wrong.
Does anyone else have some comments they would like to share?
Krill Wrote:Krill: Scary though
*thought
If Gillette pick Sury
That leaves Willem for 4th pick forcing us to get Inca or leave it for Pacal
if gillette pick Sury LP may still take HC  leaving us Willem...
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