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Fiddling While the World Burns or How to Tick Off Bob: EITB21 Lurker Thread

#61
July 20th, 2012, 01:13
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Just because the game counted it as a spread for Ilios does not mean the religion was erased.
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July 20th, 2012, 22:14
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So how many units did they put in the Mercurian capital?
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July 20th, 2012, 22:59
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Oh my. Good point.

But it looks to me that the Angel Capital is 4 tiles away. Mobility II Priests are only Move 3.

So he could have forked them on the tile 7 of its current position, but not on that hill.
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July 20th, 2012, 23:01
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Shouldn't someone tell HK/mardoc about the angel mechanism being bugged? I can see why the ruling is "play it as it lies," but they should at least know.
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July 20th, 2012, 23:33
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The angel mechanism is bugged?

Okay I guess it is four tiles to the capital. I thought it was 3NW but it's 1N of that.
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#66
July 23rd, 2012, 12:37
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NobleHelium Wrote:The angel mechanism is bugged?

Okay I guess it is four tiles to the capital. I thought it was 3NW but it's 1N of that.

Possibly, Ilios's screenshots shows angels being reborn in the log when he razed those Mercurian cities, but HK/Mardoc report not getting any. Would it be kosher to suggest to HK/Mardoc that they test angel generation in a test game and see if things are working?
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July 23rd, 2012, 20:03
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I expected that they just weren't keeping track of how many angels they have, as you can see in Mardoc's latest posts. Don't ask me how you can not notice a new angel waiting for orders, but so it goes.
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July 23rd, 2012, 22:09
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I thought that Angels spawned when (a) either cities owned by Good leaders are razed, or (b) units following Kilmorph, Empyrean, or Order are killed.
Unless it's been changed in EitB, Angels don't necessarily spawn when any unit owned by a Good leader is killed.
So the Mercurians got one Angel for each of their three cities that were razed, but none for the Axeman, who likely followed no religion. The mechanic seems to be working fine.
I'm not sure Hiding Kneel et al. know that mundane units only have a chance to be followers of one of the religions in the city they were trained.
If they want to spawn the most Angels, they should only build Crusaders (or Ratha or Paramanders), which are guaranteed to become Angels.

EDIT: At least, I'm fairly sure that's how the mechanic works.
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July 23rd, 2012, 22:41
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Azoth Wrote:I thought that Angels spawned when (a) either cities owned by Good leaders are razed, or (b) units following Kilmorph, Empyrean, or Order are killed.
Unless it's been changed in EitB, Angels don't necessarily spawn when any unit owned by a Good leader is killed.
So the Mercurians got one Angel for each of their three cities that were razed, but none for the Axeman, who likely followed no religion. The mechanic seems to be working fine.
I'm not sure Hiding Kneel et al. know that mundane units only have a chance to be followers of one of the religions in the city they were trained.
If they want to spawn the most Angels, they should only build Crusaders (or Ratha or Paramanders), which are guaranteed to become Angels.

EDIT: At least, I'm fairly sure that's how the mechanic works.

All of Basium's living units should automatically respawn as Angels.
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July 24th, 2012, 15:54
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Well, its not as absolute as that, from what I understand.

Good religions will always, 100%, spawn as angels ...

however, regular (non religion) units in Mercurian control only have a "chance" of spawning an angel.

and this only applies to living units, and if I recall it has been disabled for animal and beast units. (animal angels would be an amusing bug for FoL users)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVfUJkYqMOU
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