Dot mapping

[novice]

When does our NAP with CFC expire? If we do this we should try to extend it first, and tighten up the loopholes with regards to what we consider breaking the NAP. (Spy actions, proxy wars, etc.)

[T-hawk]

I'm convinced too, take the oasis for a nice organized dotmap. Didn't we talk about offering the stone to CFC as a sign of good faith? Is that still on the table?

[NobleHelium]

I'm perfectly fine with gifting the stone to CFC, but I think we should push for the better spot (pink), yes.

[Tyrmith]

If it really mattered they would have moved the line farther toward us imo.

[MWIN]

I say, we should inform CFC about our settlement a turn before we settle.

[SleepingMoogle]

If I remember correctly the promise we made was not to settle past the oasis right? Technically, pink is not past it even though that's stretching it a bit. But I agree that it is the best spot and CFC basically has conceded their ownership of the area by never settling it.

[novice]

...and CFC basically has conceded their ownership of the area by never settling it.

From CFC's point of view, that's bollocks. Because they've agreed on a land split with us, they should have no need to prioritize the area, but should settle in other directions. That's the whole point of agreeing to a land split.

[NobleHelium]

Sure, I agree with that. But they also fed us bullshit to deceive us into settling the area later than we might otherwise have. And we did not agree to a perpetual land split and just let them have land even if they suck at settling it.

[kjn]

What we got with CFC weren't really a settling agreement, it's an agreement that we will not settle past/near the oasis without talking with each other first. Now, they've done the second (talk), but we've seen no signs of them doing the first (settle anything).

But it's not set in stone that we can't settle past the oasis. All it says is that we need to talk with them before we settle the pink dot location.

[mostly_harmless]

What we got with CFC weren't really a settling agreement, it's an agreement that we will not settle past/near the oasis without talking with each other first. Now, they've done the second (talk), but we've seen no signs of them doing the first (settle anything).

But it's not set in stone that we can't settle past the oasis. All it says is that we need to talk with them before we settle the pink dot location.

I disagree with that.
What it says is:

We're in agreement not to settle aggressively - for us that means neither team settling past the oasis.

Pink dot is not settling past the oasis.
We did not agree to inform the other party about settling plans.
The moment we start talking to them about our plans too soon, I am pretty sure Pink Dot is not going to happen for us.

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