February 3rd, 2013, 00:06
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X-post.
My point was you were acting LIKE tasunke would (crazily campaigning with no real reason) rather then copying him.
If a werewolf was scum aligned then that just wrecks the pre-pick meta - its already been discussed too.
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February 3rd, 2013, 00:17
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(February 2nd, 2013, 23:49)Gazglum Wrote: From what I've read, it seems that Zakalwe, Gaspar, and probably novice are pretty good players. So, barring real evidence, it seems a bad play to try and lynch one of them on Day 1 based off hunches and joke votes. If we kill them and they flip village, that's going to make the rest of the game that bit harder. Let's wait until we have something more concrete to work with there.
Zakalwe and novice are both much better than me and while I'd like to not die, I wouldn't put myself in that same category. I'm medio. And I don't want to indicate we shouldn't watch them too - I thought zakalwe revealed himself as scum last game ~day 3 and it had nothing to do with him still being alive - it was the accumulated lack of incisiveness to his play and a bit of anger that is atypical of zak the villager. So watch closely, certainly. But yeah, they've earned enough rope to hang themselves rather than die on day 1/2 without a bit more smoking a pistola than just not liking a post here or there.
Ryan, I hesitate to criticize you because you're obviously quite sensitive to it and I can relate from some past games, but you really don't need to explain every step of your life to us. Play when you can, if you can't, don't. Molach did this earlier and its a trait I've noticed from playing scum with him twice - giving us your whole life itinerario. I'm telling you this because I'm not reading it as a scumtell from you based on what I perceive of you from last game - but I normally consider it a mild scumtell.
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February 3rd, 2013, 00:46
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(February 2nd, 2013, 23:44)Gaspar Wrote: Couple quick thoughts...- Bigger, do you ever actually try in these games? You're trying to ride coattails of zak's flimsy but at least partly justified crusade against me. I especially don't like the post where you try to claim credit for being part of starting it when all you've actually contributed is a joke vote you haven't moved and your "me too" posts. I'm very sensitive to people trying to get in on or deflect credit before we know results, especially under no pressure. So here, have some pressure.
I like this line of thinking. What's your deal Bigger?
February 3rd, 2013, 02:25
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(February 2nd, 2013, 15:05)Tasunke Wrote: I think Meiz, Flug_auto, and Gaspar all look scummy. But ... I dunno. I feel like Flug_auto is a set-up of some kind. Not sure which. Just doesn't feel right imho. There are about 7 wolves this game right? Hmm, or maybe 2 packs of 4, or 3 packs of (2-3) ... guess it depends on how strong the powers are. I'm not sure. But I feel like this is the perfect recipe for a multi-faction game. Imma gettin paranoid just thinkin a bout it. So I dunno ... its hard to say.
Due to Gaspar's heavy RP, at least early on (go Italiano go!) I'm thinking he is more likely the wolf but .... which wolf? of which pack? Can we get a confirm of how many alignments are in the game? If its mentioned somewhere I apologize, must have just missed it.
Anyways, Meiz seems like a good place for a vote, but I dunno, should we vote Gaspar instead? He'd be a pretty scary wolf imho, while I haven't much experience with a Meiz wolf (at least not that I can remember). Anyways, I think we should hang him high ... Gaspar that is. Cause I don't wanna see a Gaspar wolf let loose. >_>
(maybe we can kill at least one wolf of one of the packs ... or the one big one, or hell, I don't even know >_< )
(February 2nd, 2013, 15:06)Tasunke Wrote: Anyways, I feel like Gaspar is a good place to park my vote. But ... HOLY SHIT!!! THATS RIGHT!
MEIZ WAS THE ONE THAT PLANNED TO KILL ME FOR MY GOLDEN SKIN.
well, fuck it. Guess I'll be voting Meiz then.
I really didn't like this from Tansuke, he states 3 people look scummy but doesn't really give reasons for that, the nearest he comes is saying its Gaspar's RP, then in the very next post he votes for somebody based purely on RP (and relatiatory voting)
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February 3rd, 2013, 02:30
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Meh, can I help it if I find Meiz and Gaspar suspicious? At least while I was paying attention, they seemed to be hiding behind their RP. I'd suspect that Meiz is either a wolf or he has some alternate win victory (aka not village). If he is a wolf, I could see him be packmates with Gaspar.
As far as Gaspar ... he is just RPing so heaviliy, I dunno, maybe a traitor or survivalist, but I think I'd bet on wolf for now.
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February 3rd, 2013, 02:42
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(February 3rd, 2013, 02:30)Tasunke Wrote: As far as Gaspar ... he is just RPing so heaviliy, I dunno, maybe a traitor or survivalist, but I think I'd bet on wolf for now.
Kill me if ya want, its just how I feel.
"So heavily." Really? I've spritzed in maybe a total of 10 Italian words and referenced templars and tombs a couple times. I'm definitely on the low-end of the RP scale - I still haven't the faintest idea wtf about a third of these guys are on about.
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February 3rd, 2013, 02:53
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Flug does resemble thestick in a ww16. I'm certainly not going to defend him. thestick, however, had a well established baseline, I know absolutely nothing about flug and I'm willing to give him a day to get his bearings - the "don't lynch" newbies isn't a pity thing, its for the village, to prevent mislynches of players we don't have a baseline on.
Plus, honestly, I hate the RB meta of always going after the low hanging fruit in the first few days, and I don't want to participate in that.
(February 3rd, 2013, 00:46)BRickAstley Wrote: (February 2nd, 2013, 23:44)Gaspar Wrote: Couple quick thoughts...- Bigger, do you ever actually try in these games? You're trying to ride coattails of zak's flimsy but at least partly justified crusade against me. I especially don't like the post where you try to claim credit for being part of starting it when all you've actually contributed is a joke vote you haven't moved and your "me too" posts. I'm very sensitive to people trying to get in on or deflect credit before we know results, especially under no pressure. So here, have some pressure.
I like this line of thinking. What's your deal Bigger?
You should have figured out by now why I was voting for Gaspar. Maybe you should reread my mason thread in ww16? My "joke votes" always have a purpose. I wasn't happy with the early reaction Gaspar gave and didn't want to lynch a newbie day 1 (plus I don't see the scum tells on Meiz), so I kept my vote there. Anyway, he's reaction of late is more convincing. I'm not going to make the same mistake I made in 16 and forget about him, but I can let it go for today.
Ichabod is acting just as scummy as Flug, and he's not a newbie.
Plus he's a bit of a creep. I'm a lady, sir!
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February 3rd, 2013, 02:57
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How is Ichabod acting scummy?
Speaking of Ichabod
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February 3rd, 2013, 03:04
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Tally (baring any shenaningans from roles)
flug_auto - ( 5 )- Lewwyn Azza GaiusMarius Novice Mattimeo
Bigger - ( 2 )- Gaspar BrickAstley
GaiusMarius - ( 2 )- Qgqqqqq Gazglum
Gaspar - ( 2 )- Zakalwe Tasunke
Lewwyn - ( 2 )- Molach flug_auto
Meiz - ( 2 )- Serdoa Rowain
Gazglum - ( 1 )- Ichabod
Ichabod - ( 1 )- Bigger
Qgqqqqq - ( 1 )- Ryan
Rowain - ( 1 )- Meiz
Tasunke - ( 1 )- Jkaen
Zakalwe - ( 1 )- Pindicator
February 3rd, 2013, 03:11
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(February 3rd, 2013, 02:57)Jkaen Wrote: How is Ichabod acting scummy?
Speaking of Ichabod
"Tattoos on my back? What do they say?"
Well, something I've not been crazy about is Ichabod's roleplay about copying 'the boss'' votes, or revenge voting if someone targets you. I do love Morte, and I'm enjoying Ichabod's rendition, but this also strikes me as a way Ichabod can later disclaim responsibility for his actions as partly roleplaying.
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