WW20: Legend of the Undercity

[Ichabod]

The village, according to Bigger:



Uberfish made you think you were cool characters. You are all lemmings, people. All lemmings.

[BRickAstley]

Ichabod, I hate you so much in this game, but that picture is fucking hilarious, I fell out of my chair.

[Bigger]

The village, according to Bigger:



Uberfish made you think you were cool characters. You are all lemmings, people. All lemmings.

thats very close. Meiz should change jobs to a miner though, and dig a hole in the middle of the bridge.

[Qgqqqqq]

Thoughts:
Sorry GM wish wed had more time to discuss it
Anyway GG

what's the bet novice gets :nightkilled

How did bigger lie (I rushed through so may have missed it).

Ich I've been on/off gm all day, and (IIRC) made the first decent case against him.
This may make me look scummy but I'm certainly not a minion.

[Ichabod]

Thoughts:
Sorry GM wish wed had more time to discuss it
Anyway GG

what's the bet novice gets :nightkilled

How did bigger lie (I rushed through so may have missed it).

Ich I've been on/off gm all day, and (IIRC) made the first decent case against him.
This may make me look scummy but I'm certainly not a minion.

Just kidding.

[Gazglum]

*Drunkenly throw empty grog bottle at maniacally laughing skull*

[BRickAstley]

Hey I found what Ichabod thinks of himself

[Bigger]

I think ichabod knows what he is:

[Serdoa]

not just lewwyn, but I made it clear I couldnt be on at deadline. you locked my vote AND Lewwyn's vote in place on you

gawd, the village is too lemmingly . every game it seems like the same low hanging fruit are lynched the first few days (always one of - new\newish players, tasunke, me, Rowain, mattimeo, or brick). Ichabod was clearly the best candidate once novice was mod-revealed innocent - Gaius was 10% as suspicious as Ichabod, and his lynch reveals nothing . And I can't figure out for the life of me why mattimeo was on the block - I guess just because he's always terrible at defending himself.

serdoa is either lying or gauius jailed one of us. I got no noticed that I was jailed or roleblocked, but iirc uber doesnt notify in those cases anyway. I need to ask uber some rules questions, so I'll wait until day phase to comment more on this.

Bigger, quite honestly, I don't want to be put into there with "the village". Because I also have no clue why novice (who is certainly innocent) thought it is a great idea to lynch Mattimeo without a real case being made on him, without him being discussed at all for nearly the whole day. I also don't understand why Rowain voted for Gaius, even though I thought he shared my suspicions on Ichabod since Day 1. Ichabod just plays those guys with his "careless" attitude and his "I want to play differently for once, and will whine if it gets me on the block about how the village does always the same things". And just like that, he can play an awful game and still don't get lynched because appearantly some players don't want to give him the impression that he can't play differently. But sorry guys, this is not about playing differently or that we only allow the one right way to play. We do have many different ways to play, but they share some points:

- Being honest
- Sharing your thoughts
- play for the village, not for your survival or other personal goals

Well, Ichabod is neither honest, nor does he really share his thoughts (his "cases" are just laughable - and I am not talking about the lenght, look at what he did with Gazglum if you want to know what I mean) and he most certainly is not playing for the village, because if he did, he would not play in a way that makes himself distracting the discussion for 2 days now. Everyone always wants to lynch Tasunke because he is a distraction to the village - but when Ichabod does that we suddenly have to accept it as "his way to play"? Sorry, but no. If his way to play is hurting the village, he should be lynched. This is a teamgame after all and in soccer you also won't keep a player that is always shooting at your goal because it is "his way to play". And thats what Ichabod did since the start of this game, playing against the village.

As for your point about me potentially lying: What would be my goal with that? If I received a message, I would get much more out of it (as scum) if I would confess it - especially when you just asked to lynch the one who got nightkilled. I don't gain anything by lying, neither will it get you lynched right away (you admitted yourself that you sent the message, so everyone would ask the same thing I did "Why would he say that, lets wait for him to clarify") nor will it help if you get lynched and be shown villager. Quite the opposite, that might get me lynched afterwards as well. And not telling it but instead voting for you would also make no sense, as I would have to assume that you tell that. Even if I would expect that, countering to that with stating "never received it" instead of coming up with some "I don't trust you, seemed to convienient" would just be dumb. So, imo both our play makes no sense if we are both not village.

[Bigger]

good post serdoa.

I agree with all your points. I do think Ichabod has to be lynched as well.


On reflection, I think the only possibility is that Gaius jailed one of us. I could have been roleblocked, but that seems unlikely. You're right that you lying doesnt make sense as scum OR village. I was a bit angry and didn't have much time on my lunchbreak - and the jailkeeper role didn't even occur to me (was thinking baner, which shouldnt have blocked the message, or roleblocker).

I just wish Gaius had had the sense to role-claim, and tell us who he jailed. Might have saved him from the lynch, and would explain a lot too.