WW20: Legend of the Undercity

[Meiz]

I'm simply starting to hate the grin of that laughing skull, and wan't to shut him up!

[Jkaen]

Well yet again we have crazy last minute swings, but reading the last few pages I cant see why Ichabod is getting labelled as the circusmaster here, it seems to me that lynch was all down to Meiz pushing not Ichabod.

Novice I guess now needs to do a brain dump before he is killed tonight

If somebody gets a PM from bigger they need to announce it early tomorrow otherwise he is going down.

Ichabods woe is me I must get lynched now when the votes were something like 5,4,2 with him on 2 looked scummy to me.

I think Mattimeo escaped today just because Novice was suspected and Serdoa/Rowain especially had decided he was for sure guilty. Speaking of which, Serdoa will we get a bit more humility now its shown that one of your two guaranteed scum players is infact village?

[Gazglum]

I see Ichabod more like this old friend of mine:



Anyway, everyone CALM DOWN, because I've woken up from my grog hangover and I've had a flash of insight. We can win this game the way I win all my games - click 'use' everything on everything!

> USE accusation on FLUG_AUTO

"I don't think they go together"

> USE accusation on GAIUSMARIUS

"Hmmm....no"

> USE accusation on...etc.

[Gazglum]

In other thoughts - are there potentially any other roles that can protect against night kills? Or watch people? Either way, I guess aim them at Novice?

[Jkaen]

Just realised my last point of my last post isnt well explained.

What I was trying to say is:
- Novice was main person pushing Mattimeo
- Novice was heavily suspected
- Hence nobody trusted Novice's word
- Hence everybody shied away from Mattimeo

[Rowain]

I think Mattimeo escaped today just because Novice was suspected and Serdoa/Rowain especially had decided he was for sure guilty.

WTF WTF WTF. I decided that novice looks guilty????? Are you completly stupid? I said I doubt he is guilty. I said his play makes no sense if he is scum. I even digged up a post he himself overlooked and questioned why the one who jumped from TAS is labelled scum and the other is labeled innocent.

Are you lying on purpose? misreading on purpose? Whats your game?

Tell me why you changed your stance on Ichabod from "Without a smoking gun I won't vote Ichabod" to "He defends poorly so oof with his head" on day1?

[Rowain]

The village, according to Bigger:



Uberfish made you think you were cool characters. You are all lemmings, people. All lemmings.

[Serdoa]

Well yet again we have crazy last minute swings, but reading the last few pages I cant see why Ichabod is getting labelled as the circusmaster here, it seems to me that lynch was all down to Meiz pushing not Ichabod.

I don't like Meiz role in here, but he decided to make certain that Mattimeo gets not lynched. I too don't see the reason to lynch him, but why Gaius was a better lynch than Mattimeo is certainly something for Meiz to explain.

I think Mattimeo escaped today just because Novice was suspected and Serdoa/Rowain especially had decided he was for sure guilty. Speaking of which, Serdoa will we get a bit more humility now its shown that one of your two guaranteed scum players is infact village?

Mattimeo "escaped" because you guys didn't build a fucking case on him but decided that you'll just vote him because you are scared to vote for someone who can defend. And that is really annoying tbh. If you all suspected Mattimeo - and I agree that he hasn't posted enough - why not confront him with that? I mean there was nothing that happened in the last few hours, everything that possibly could make you believe Mattimeo is scum was there from the first minute of this day. Why bring a new target forward that late? Whats the gain?

And sorry Jkaen, but that second part is just made up in the worst possible way. I wasn't the one pushing for novices lynch, you realize that yes? I mean, that is what I posted on D2 on novice

"Novice makes not much sense as scum imo. I don't like his play, but I can't believe he would unvote Tasunke after that post if he were scum."

I switched to novice later on for a total of 6 (!) minutes, but switch back to Ichabod BEFORE novice revealed. And my vote for him was mostly because of playing while watching a movie AND not liking how novice played, doubting my own words. When he revealed his whole play made of course more sense, players get kinda reckless when they know they can PROVE their innocence without doubt. And btw I still don't like his play, look at Lewwyns and Biggers argument if you want to know why. But not matter that episode in the last hour, how do you come to the conclusion that I decided he was for sure guilty?

So, no I guess you won't get humility. But a tip: Differeniate between me suspecting someone and me disagreeing with someone. Thats not the same, but it seems some players are not able to understand that. I disagree with you here for example, but that doesn't make you scum. That I get the feeling you try to smear me though might make me reevaluate your position. Not that you disagree, but the way you bend the truth to do it.

[Rowain]

About the lynch. Sorry Gaius you looked the best alternate for me. Sadly you didn't roleclaim (you were constantly near the chop during the day)

I also don't understand why Rowain voted for Gaius, even though I thought he shared my suspicions on Ichabod since Day 1.

I said I won't vote for him during day2.

[novice]

Not much to say. My bad for needlessly attracting so much heat. I wanted to try and defend honestly, also felt Mattimeo was a decent lynch although I didn't have time to argue for his lynch. He had basically just the one post defending Molach but still voting for him, the rest of his posts were null tells.

Yeah I could have claimed earlier, but if I was able to defend I could save it for later, and get to live past night 2 for a change.

Lewwyn, you just live in the wrong time zone. I wasn't going to burn my ability just for you. I did ask you who your suspects were, assuming I was innocent. I don't know if you were asleep already or what, but you never answered.