WW20: Legend of the Undercity

[Serdoa]

serdoa do you think Azza is villager or scum.

No clue. Not enough info to base that on. I had a slight village lean on him, but while rereading his posts he didn't do anything helpful on D3. Of course, most players didn't, that just was a wasted day, so it is hard to condemn him alone for that.

@BRick

Ok, so you realized that what you say and what he says is matching, and you certainly realized that he revealed to explain your "no result" on Lewwyn. Can you tell me why again you voted him? I mean, lying villager, thats not really what you are going for is it? I can't believe you thought he was scum, why would he WITHOUT any need reveal not only his role and / or lie about it? I get the feeling that we had yesterday a few dumb villagers and on top some wolves that celebrated that we lynch a villager happily even though it is obvious that he is a villager. And I wouldn't be surprised if you are one of them - though I guess we will certainly know at the end of this night. If you don't die, I know whom I will vote for.

[Rowain]

I have absolutely no idea what happened with the Lewwyn info, which is why I think Rowain has something to do with it he either isn't telling us or can't tell us.

No I have nothing todo. agian that "Lewwyn" post had, had and will not have any influence on that game. There was no meddling with your results from me nor any other weird idea you may have. It was not a command (compare to Meiz' execute and Gazglum Duell-command) nr does it contain any other info. Speaking of Info I would like to know what this means:

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[Ichabod]

You dairy farm like a pirate, Gazglum!

Sorry, couldn't get near the computer yesterday. Will read what I missed and maybe give some comments.

[BRickAstley]

I have absolutely no idea what happened with the Lewwyn info, which is why I think Rowain has something to do with it he either isn't telling us or can't tell us.

No I have nothing todo. agian that "Lewwyn" post had, had and will not have any influence on that game. There was no meddling with your results from me nor any other weird idea you may have. It was not a command (compare to Meiz' execute and Gazglum Duell-command) nr does it contain any other info. Speaking of Info I would like to know what this means:

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That last part was me showing frustration at gas glum posting at the same time as me to duel who I knew was a villager.

And at Serdoa: if what Mattimeo said was the truth, I should have gotten my Lewwyn result night two. I didn't. Hence, what he said was not the whole truth. Based on that and some of his other behavior, I thou he was lying or at least there was something fisher going on.

[Serdoa]

Yeah, like him having been blocked N1 for example? I mean BRick, honestly, would scum have revealed AND lied for no reason? Anyway, doesn't matter now anymore and discussing it further won't help at all. Either you realized it and just wanted to be part of a lynch or you really didn't realize it. I have a hard time believing the latter but whatever.

[pindicator]

WW20 - Day 3: Post 8


@Serdoa-

I looked up your posts again and my bad, you didn't say what I attributed you to last post. What you did do was help open me up to the possibility that there were other reasons besides Ichabod & Jkaen being a scum pair that could account for Ichabod defending JKaen and yet. And since I was getting village vibes from Ichabod, I let it drop -- I even quoted you when I said as much:

As for Jkaen: I also don't believe him that he is just a vanilla villager. But he might have reasons to lie, as he might have had reasons to lie when he told us he has a bond with you.

I was about to rip into Ichabod for posting jkaen's defense before jkaen could, but now i think i see a probable town reason for that.

But you are right that we shouldn't forget jkaen. I could just be trusting Ichabod making a bad read when I was suspecting that they were hinting at a link.

Matt lynched: town temporal displacer
Gaz killed: town insult duellist

Matt, why couldn't you answer the question: who do you suspect? You voted flug for the same reason day 1: because he wouldn't answer your question.


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And this bit I just wrote:

Yeah, like him having been blocked N1 for example? I mean BRick, honestly, would scum have revealed AND lied for no reason? Anyway, doesn't matter now anymore and discussing it further won't help at all. Either you realized it and just wanted to be part of a lynch or you really didn't realize it. I have a hard time believing the latter but whatever.

Your self-righteous tirades are really pissing me off Serdoa. If you were so damn sure that Mattimeo was village then where was that during the day? You keep talking like we all don't listen to you and you have all the fucking answers if we'd just pull our heads out of our asses and listen then we'd win every game and never mislynch, but you don't have shit. Oh, and when you're wrong about a lynch you get to play the pity party about how everybody picks on you when you're wrong but you got that one wolf that one time so they should lay off. Stop being a hypocrite. You don't know any more than the rest of us, but you keep trying to tear people down when they don't agree with you.

If you were so sure Mattimeo was village then you should have argued it earlier, and not tried to beat people over the head with it after the fact. I see you asking for more people to reveal information if that had any influence on the day, and I see you worried that we might lynch two villagers, but you're never trying to defend him or really argue that other targets are better. So until you have something constructive to say: Shut. The. Hell. Up.

[Meiz]

Got to agree with Pind. It's annoying as hell.

[Serdoa]

Did I vote for Mattimeo? No. Would have anyone listened had I told you not to lynch him? No. So, I did just what you asked. But my point is - and thats why I talked specifically to BRick - that I would expect him to ponder about what happened with his night actions. That his answer is that he thought that Mattimeo is a lieing villager should actually make you think about him instead of flaming me.

But hey, of course telling me to shut up is easier...

[pindicator]

WW20 - Day 3: Post 9

Did I vote for Mattimeo? No. Would have anyone listened had I told you not to lynch him? No.

That's your assumption. But we will never know if that's true because you never tried.
Your horse is high, sir. Perhaps you could come down off it and join us?

That his answer is that he thought that Mattimeo is a lieing villager should actually make you think about him instead of flaming me.

You go find where Brick said Mattimeo was a "lieing villager". Those are your words and you're putting them in his mouth. I remember someone accusing me of doing that earlier.
Who was that?

But hey, of course telling me to shut up is easier...

Take a deep breath and step back Serdoa. Re-evaluate the whole game, not just Ichabod and Brick.

I think you've got tunnel vision on Ichabod right now. And when Brick cleared him you're so set on Ichabod that you just assumed Brick had to be in on it too. So if you've got some extra information that says he's scum, please share it, or don't share it and try to argue it. But you attacking Brick because he claimed seer and cleared Ichabod is just silly. You're trying to make the facts fit into your pre-existing theory.


I think GLaDOS has something she wants to say.*

Besides, I've got one more post left today and I'm not using it to argue with you.


*Why couldn't I have found that wiki site earlier!?

[Serdoa]

That's why I voted for Matt, because what he said should have happened to me did not happen to me, so he looked like a lying villager at best which was scummy.