WW20: Legend of the Undercity

[Lewwyn]

Right now, I'm really suspecting Serdoa though. I don't like his posturing on the Mattimeo mislynch, his attack on Brick's credibility the night Brick got nightkiller felt like distancing to me, and overall his crusades seem to have been pushing town targets.

I happen to agree with this. I think Serdoa is SK. So I don't think it clears Azza either.


I am probably not going to spend the entire day voting Azza. I want people to actively scumhunt as well. Whether or not Azza is the final lynch for the day should still be up in the air.

[Serdoa]

You wanted to shut me up pindi, you can be sure to get this now, because I am out for 3 days (see my posts in my PBEM-games). So the most you'll get is me chiming in in the evening.

WHY didn't you say anything? Why are you using ideas that could have been used to at least make Day 3 interesting to now attack other people including the now dead proven seer? This is reasoning I would have listened to. But yeah Shutting up is easier when you don't care if villagers go down. I believe you are in fact the SK.

You didn't realize that yourself. Go Lewwyn, go town... and tbh, I don't care about this game at all. I am getting pissed on since D1 that I am stupid, that I should just shut up, etc. Go lynch me, as you lynched Mattimeo. And afterwards you can cry around that it was totally only my play. Alternatively, go back and explain my pro-town-actions away. If you can't you should have many better targets available.

Right now, I'm really suspecting Serdoa though. I don't like his posturing on the Mattimeo mislynch, his attack on Brick's credibility the night Brick got nightkiller felt like distancing to me, and overall his crusades seem to have been pushing town targets.

Distancing? From the town seer? Ah yes, that makes sense. I needed to attack the town seer because he was the clear and obvious nightkill target...

[Bigger]

good grief, there are a lot of drama queens in this game.


Serdoa, in which pbem did you explain why you are disappearing for 3 days? I didn't see anything in pbem47. I can't read your pb8 thread, obviously.

[Ryan]

I don't agree with you bigger. I think he is likely the sk. The n2 no kill + Mattis power was used on him. I might be completely wrong but why do you think he is cleared ?

I don't agree with you bigger. I think he is likely the sk. The n2 no kill + Mattis power was used on him. I might be completely wrong but why do you think he is cleared ?

Ichabod basically proved you didn't lie about n2. The way he handled that before night end feels like a town action. Why would he protect you like that ? Unless you two are scum but if he dies. He will kill you with him. Since Ichabod diverted action ON you it means the role block was technically on you. You teo are town in my book just because of that but here's the thing unless the role blocker if there is one claims. That means the only role denying power in affect was n2. Which also means that matti targeted lew and lews power got delayed one night. N2 no kill happened, n3 a kill happened. I'm either a genius or a fukn idiot.

Ryan - there was no roleblock. Ichabod got my message on night 2 that was intended for Rowain - he diverted my action to himself, rather than Rowain.

hmm, ok, I missed the delayed kill possibility on lewwyn. but that would probably mean 3 kills last ngiht - 1 for wolves, 2 for lewwyn SK. I suppose its possible lewwyn killed brick 2 nights ago, which got delayed, then killed rowain last night, while the wolves killed Brick, not knowuing lewwyn would do it for them. But that seems a bit far fetched. I'd rather go with KISS, and lynch either molach or Azza, who there is more dirt on, imo.

Bigger read matti's post. Brick got only 1 result n2. He got nothing n1. Which means a delayed action either completely replaces the new action or delays each action 1 night + .

So to further clarify, it makes perfect sense. Matti used power n2. Sk ordered a kill n2. No kill happened. Sk orders n3 kill. The n2 kill is the one that happens.

That would completely match what happened to brick. N1 no result. N2 only 1 result. Which means n1 result is the one that happened. Which means gentle man chogath should have died last night aka matti saved his life or prolonged it 1 night.

Please listen ....

WTF.

Mattimeo's power is to delay and action. I do not know why the scan of me did not go through N2, but its entirely possible that either Brick or I got blocked N1 and as such that scan was no result no matter Matt's ability.

Then N2 we don't have a second Night kill, you suspect that it was mine and delayed. So who did I try to kill on Night 2 that died N3?

Ichabod's power confirms that if I had tried to kill someone N3 that HE would have died instead. So what your suggesting is that I killed Gaspar, Killed N2 but it was delayed to tonight and then I chose NOT to kill tonight. This is fucking ridiculous. You are not a fucking genius. There are holes throughout your theory and you are simply trying to make the evidence fit with what you think.

You tried to kill brick n2 , your n3 kill got replaced by your n2. But whatever your an old player not like they would lynch you.

[Ryan]

Lewwyn what's your role ?

[Lewwyn]

You tried to kill brick n2 , your n3 kill got replaced by your n2. But whatever your an old player not like they would lynch you.

Right I tried to Kill Brick N2, before he revealed seer. And then my N3 kill, which would have auto redirected at Ichabod, was instead superseded because of Matt's time displacement even though Brick's N1 scan of me that was bumped by Matt's ability did not supersede his N2 scan. Great logic Ryan.

Lewwyn what's your role ?

It will be revealed when I use it. It's a one time use thing. Or perhaps only triggered in the event someone tries to night kill me?

[Serdoa]

good grief, there are a lot of drama queens in this game.


Serdoa, in which pbem did you explain why you are disappearing for 3 days? I didn't see anything in pbem47. I can't read your pb8 thread, obviously.

Read the tech-threads? I mean obviously I don't post that in my thread where none of the other players can see it...

@pindicator: Sorry I attributed the last post (second part) to you, but it was Azza who posted that.

@Qgggg: You said something along the lines of good players doing scumhunting but somehow not hitting the right targets, attributing that to me. Which target was wrong? Meiz? He is still alive, we don't know. Ichabod? Same. Bigger? Same. We did not lynch any of the targets I brought forward. And except for Ichabod - who is semi-cleared though I keep in mind the possibilities of roles fucking with BRicks result - none of them is cleared at all. So, I don't think attributing that to me is fair. Look at pindicator or Lewwyn if you want to attribute this sentence somewhere. Or Ichabod - if we weren't in that bad shape and couldn't afford to mislynch I still would want to look into him. Because he certainly didn't hit right even once.

Anyhow, for now:

Meiz

I made points on D1 and I believe D2. After N2 I thought he had to be innocent because of my switch between novice and him and someone targetting him to kill. But actually I might indeed have been blocked or he might be SK. And no, I don't care that your meta-arguments tell you that he can't be SK because of him having a day-kill. This is a high power game, so uberfish might very well give that to a SK to counter those high powers imo. And even if not, the point stands that I might have been blocked. So far his game alone didn't clear him for me at all, quite the opposite.

[Bigger]

ah I see it now. I don't generally read tech threads of games I'm not playing in .

[Ryan]

You tried to kill brick n2 , your n3 kill got replaced by your n2. But whatever your an old player not like they would lynch you.

Right I tried to Kill Brick N2, before he revealed seer. And then my N3 kill, which would have auto redirected at Ichabod, was instead superseded because of Matt's time displacement even though Brick's N1 scan of me that was bumped by Matt's ability did not supersede his N2 scan. Great logic Ryan.

Lewwyn what's your role ?

It will be revealed when I use it. It's a one time use thing. Or perhaps only triggered in the event someone tries to night kill me?

That N1 could have been a role blocker matti or brick. If no one is claiming role blocker then no other ability could have prevented a sk kill. Oh you know what ? What if Rowain dies defending someone and he targeted Ichabod ? Ya that makes more sense. Brick was scum killed or sk killed Rowain defended Ichabod and he taunted you. He died for Ichabod. There a reason for ur n2 action to be negated , and why Ichabod didn't die. Rowain died defending someone if his power is to protect so that negates the argument that was saying you didn't kill

[Ryan]

The key was Rowain role. If you targeted Ichabod he defended him .