(February 11th, 2013, 13:03)Ryan Wrote: I am really annoyed at this actually. I have been trying to say this a lone and NO ONE was listening to me. Bigger , Lewwyn, and Q making fun of my posts. The moment Serdoa posts it you all defend him ? I am pretty sad at this now even ..
Ryan, I think you have to take into account that at least Lewwyn will of course disagree, because it means he is the bad guy. That leaves Q and Bigger. Q either is as I said scum and might want to get you lynched or is a honest villager who simply has a very confrontional way. I think it is not helped by his restrictions due to his phone.
@Meiz
You might be right. Quite honestly, if you would ask me right now I would still say Bigger and Q. But matter of the fact is that I am away from home and have not reread the game. I haven't done anything worthwhile on D3 and was frustrated with myself not having fought more. I will re-read the other posts as soon as I am no longer on my laptop (which is really akward to read anything on, I don't know how you guys do that, though you probably do have a working left eye...).
@Q
If I am wrong, sorry. But I really got the feeling that you reacted to Ryan in a way that was obviously aggravating him.
sigh. Ryan, part of the reason people sometimes ignore you at times, is that you is that you are so damn sensitive, they know if they disagree with you, you will throw a hissy fit and call them names.
I never once made fun of your posts, that accusation is just absurd. I disagree and said your logic was unsound. You REALLY need to grow thicker skin, or find a less confrontational game to play.
Please don't go. The drones need you. They look up to you.
(February 11th, 2013, 13:48)Jkaen Wrote: bigger how do you handle all the others agreeing with me. Nice try though
Who agreed with you besides Lewwyn? And Lewwyn clearly has confirmation bias, since he suspected Serdoa already.
You didn't even make an argument. You said "What if Rowain's role m,eans whenever he dies the person that killed him gets a vote the next day," which doesnt even make sense and there is no evidence to suggest that. Then in the very next post you called it a smoking gun! WTF, that is the farthest thing possible from a smoking gun!
(February 11th, 2013, 13:53)Ryan Wrote: @ Bigger , The way you dismiss my posts. Is really annoying. Espically when I am try to let you guys consider me as a good player.
If you want me to consider you as a good player, you should work on becoming one! I am always trying to improve my game and mostly let my game speak for itself. Don't try to bully me into agreeing with you with curse words and temper-tantrums.
Please don't go. The drones need you. They look up to you.
Been writing this post over the course of two hours, when i can sneak it in at work
@ichabod
(February 11th, 2013, 12:12)Ichabod Wrote: 2. I don't know. If Lewwyn used a power, it's likely that he got the results, but I wouldn't be warned about it. Bigger is likely the only Power Role that I could actually get the result after using my abiility.
3. I have no links to jkaen, nothing is hinted in my PM about it. Gotta reread his posts, no opinion now.
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Everyone needs to remember that Bigger's message didn't get through to Serdoa on night 1. I can't remember exactly what each power role claimed, so i can't say how this fits. But we have to guess that:
1. Bigger could have been the roleblocked person on night 1.
2. Serdoa or Bigger were jailed on night 1 (very possible that it was Serdoa, I wouldn't expect his pwoer role not to be wasted only because of Zak's death - it seems to be the wrong order).
If Sedoa was jailed night 1, Mattimeo wasn't jailed. So either Brick was roleblocked or there's another thing avoiding the scan on Lewwyn. Like SK being not-scannable (highly likely, IMO - what's the point of adding a SK role if you can get scanned on night 1!). I wouldn't doubt that Lewwyn is one time night kill immune too... Or something... (yeah, I spilled that I think Lew is the SK, but I'm not that sure).
What doesn't fit with the theories is this: Why would Rowain protect me as martyr (considering it's a protection role) and not Brick? That'd be a very bad idea...
Could Rowain have been targeted? I assumed martyr would die to prevent all kills, but i admit i'm not sure at all how that role works.
I am still suspicious of jkaen's reveal. I really don't believe uberfish would make him a vanilla villager. And if you look at what he says there are some contradictions: he says he's Level 1, for instance, which definitely implies further levels and more revealed, but he sounds sure he'll only ever be a vanilla villager.
Why do you always get so unfriendly? Is it necessary to tell me I'm nuts just because you disagree? Anyway, can you please explain what you mean with that:
"He may be lashing out and angry, but why would he think either way if he was the SK?"
Did you mean why he would do either of that if he was SK? Because I honestly don't see him doing that. He does the same as Q, using Ryan as shield because they know he gets emotional and upset when they do that. Its extremely easy to get in a fight with Ryan and then sit back and say "I'll not going through that, I log off to cool down". And like that, they won another day. Please, read through Qs posts and tell me you don't see that. Lewwyn imo just copied it (and might be angry as well and try to weaken Ryans case by calling him out, so that he doesn't has to answer to the actual case).
As for how he could be SK, I'll do it again for everyone:
N1:
Tasunke blocks BRick -> no result on Lewwyn
Gaius blockcs Mattimeo -> no delay on BRick
Wolfs kill zakalwe
SK (Lewwyn) kills Gaspar
N2:
SK (Lewwyn) kills Rowain -> Mattimeo delays Lewwyn, no nightkill
BRick scans Ichabod -> innocent Ichabod
wolfs kill Meiz -> Serdoa switches Meiz and novice, novice dies (Meiz definitely not wolf)
N3:
SK does not kill -> delayed nightkill on Rowain (had Lewwyn killed we would have had 3 kills and Lewwyn would have been obvious)
wolfs kill BRick
The targets make perfect sense for wolves as for the SK, if the SK is Lewwyn, as he would not want neither Gaspar nor Rowain around much longer. They can read him.
If you think that is dumb pindicator, then please point out why.
I'm sorry, we are getting our wires crossed. I don't think you're nuts or dumb. That line you quoted, i meant that to be directed at Lewwyn about his accusations that you are SK. (When i write RE:"Name" i mean that as regarding the case on that person. @:"Name" is me addressing someone.)
I did feel i needed to say something when you were ripping into Brick, but i don't think you're nuts and i don't think you're scum. We need you and i haven't been confrontational because of that. I am very sorry that i wasn't more clear in that last post, but i meant that line to be addressed to Lewwyn about his accusation that you are SK. Anybody trying to push your buttons right now is suspicious IMO, b/c we can't do this without your help.
Regarding your Lewwyn SK theory, i think that does fit. Fits better than mine, tbh. And as Ichabod said it is likely the SK cannot be alignment scanned so Brick may not have been blocked. He would have to not kill after Mattimeo's reveal b/c 3 kills would point to him. I would only ask how that works with Ichabod's taunt: but maybe the action was locked in night 2 and then Ichabod's taunt only works on the N3 action.
I really think Lewwyn's play fits as SK too. He's not hunting like normally, but he comes up with a strong push every other day or so. But i don't think he's acting like town Lewwyn.
@Bigger
Don't misinterpret my listing: i wad basing that off town reads. Rowain was in The Rest because he had been so quiet. But his engagement last night was good and if he had been alive today i would put him leaning town.
Meiz-
I forgot about Q attacking you before the Tas execute went through.
I feel like we're narrowing this down. Jkaen & molach look like a good pair. Maybe Bigger and Q, but less likely for those two IMO. Agree that Lewwyn is plausible SK
Serdoa I go out of my way to not be aggravating to people, and I really don't know where your coming from.
I disagree with you jkaen.
bigger is right, you were pushing someone like they'd done something big, but the only smoking gun was a theory you'd cooked up.
I'm happy with jkaen for now.
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ok the case on me is stupid, my role is my role i cant do anything about it, but if everybody thinks lewwyn is the sk then fine i will follow you all, on your own heads be it
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