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(February 12th, 2013, 01:40)Serdoa Wrote: Lewwyn, of course it is right that we should not mislynch half the village, thinking they are the SK. But our situation here is not that. Our situation is that we have a imo very good case speaking for someone being SK while we have only weak to non-existing cases on possible scum.

Looking at Lewwyn I've never seen a case fitting better. And as for the comment from Molach about Occams Razor: This IS the easiest explanation.

But its not a good case. Its circumstantial. I listed numerous reasons why there could have been no second night kill N2. And they are all EASIER explanations than my kill being delayed and then me NOT killing N3. That is convoluted, not simple. What if SK and Scum simply doubled up on novice N2? Your whole theory falls apart. There is nothing else. I am a villager, I win with town and you don't even have a case for me being scummy let alone the SK!

I mean it useless to argue with you.

Serdoa. Who is next on your scum list? If you couldn't lynch me today WHO WOULD IT BE?
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That defense was the scummiest defense I've ever seen. Are you trying to kill me for hunting a killing role ? So blocking 1 of the 2 kills that happen every night is clearly a bad thing. I even said that you didn't have to be the Sk. Just a scum killing role , your basically also saying that we should ignore the sk and hunt scum ? Is that your argument ? Lol so if I know your the sk and I am sure . I shouldn't hunt you ? Nice defense. Also saying there is a chance something else happened is still a funny argument. We have more proof that my theory happened.

Bigger : ya my second target. If you are scum that increases by a mile. The way he doesn't comment on the case between us besides from I agree with lewwyn or your arguments are ridiculous. The defense he is giving you and the way he is being a sheep and following you is crazy.

Azza : I don't think he commented at all on this and he is lurking. He is my 50/50. The fact that Lewwyn is just voting Jkean even thou he thinks me and Serdoa are scum for hunting a confirmed killer yet he votes Jkean.

Jkean could be lying I agree but we have more evidence versus you.

Just asking us to make a list ? Heh are you guys reading this. Hunting a confirmed killer role is a scum move , we should keep him alive.
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Yes there is a case versus you lewwyn you aren't providing any logical argument besides something else could have happened. The emotional argument in the end there doesn't disapprove our arguments. There are more ideas that came up that power the theory wouldn't it be better to discredit them instead of saying

" it's useless to argue with you ...... I am a villager .... Your arguments are ridiculous ..."
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He isn't a confirmed killer Ryan.
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The fact that you are ignoring everything we provided and still think Ichabod gives him a town lean ? We provided an explanation for the dead roles and how it reached to this. I feel that this is stronger than him floating on Jkean while throwing accusations else where. Q why don't you tell me what is this wrong with this argument and makes sense.
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His hunting a killer when we have good evidence argument is a scum move should get him lynched.
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(February 12th, 2013, 03:09)Ryan Wrote: The fact that you are ignoring everything we provided and still think Ichabod gives him a town lean ? We provided an explanation for the dead roles and how it reached to this. I feel that this is stronger than him floating on Jkean while throwing accusations else where. Q why don't you tell me what is this wrong with this argument and makes sense.

How do you explain the two kills last night, while Ichabod states he taunted Lewwyn. Like I posted in http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showthrea...#pid340930

So the only way Lewwyn is the sk is that uber made a rule that delayed action is not affected by Ichabod's taunt. How likely do you think that is?
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Q choosing to go for a post analysis this late in the game over killing some for a strong case is pretty sad I must say.
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A) I don't think there is a non-meta based case on Lewwyn (this IMO - yes I have read the ones presented about his play serdoa, I just don't agree EitB them), and I disagree with the viability of the meta on him - time and again I feel explanations are made which only convolute it - rowauns power does x, mats power does x.
I think its suffering from confirmation bias tbh - for pretty much every step there is another requirement.
I think Lewwyn s point is more we shouldn't abandon scam to focus on sks.
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