WW20: Legend of the Undercity

[Meiz]

Since no one seems to be interested in voting Pind, Azza

Mainly due to villager reads I have from every other player except Pind and Azza.

[Ryan]

That role feels like something you came up with tbh. It's pretty big compared to the rest. It doesn't really hide you from being sk. That could be a way to protect the SK. Did anything like this role ever happen ?

I didn't make the goddamn role. Ask Uber.

Don't get angry , I didn't say anything wrong here. That entire role can protect you as serial killer. It doesn't remove you from the list as sk. I think I'm allowed to ask if anything similar to this role happened.

[Ryan]

That thing didn't change my mind. You gave me no reason to think you are not the sk.

[Lewwyn]

That thing didn't change my mind. You gave me no reason to think you are not the sk.

Do you honestly believe that Uber would give this as an extra part of the SK role? You are looking for reasons not to be wrong.

[Serdoa]

I am a death feigner. This means that at night I can stage my own death. I will be written up in the night write up as having been killed and my role + alignment will be revealed. I can then no longer play as Lewwyn. I have to create a new account with a different character. After death, Uberfish will say "Player X has entered the game". I will then play on as this new character in the new account. Now if I had done this on the same night that I was nightkilled then the kill would not go through and I would still come back the next day as the character.

Basically its like novice's get out of jail free card except it can't be used during the day and it can prevent a nightkill if I'm targeted. I can wait to try prevent a nightkill or I can do it tonight if you are paranoid that I would make up such an elaborate role that is so easily disproven.

Sorry Lewwy, but no I don't believe you. IF this role even exists (and I really doubt that, because I don't think uberfish would make anyone have to create a new account to use his role):

1. Why should we trust that your alignment is the same after the death?
2. Whats the point of you making a new account when you are essentially the same, just with a different name? Why go through that hassle?
3. Why easily disproven? Tomorrow you will tell us "Uh, I got jailed it seems. But look 2 nightkills happened, so clearly I can't be the SK, because I was jailed."

Quite honestly, I don't believe you. Mainly because of the "make a new account" thing. I could see that if uberfish created the roles AFTER knowing who was playing whom. Because he knows that you have done that new account thing yourself. But he didn't. He made the roles fit the characters without knowing who is behind. I don't believe that he would make other players who might not be as open to that kind of stuff go through all that hassle. That just seems ridiculous to me.

Now, you'd have a point of course with your: It can be proven in the night. But that leaves me with point 1: Why should we believe that you keep your alignment? You are a new character as you yourself stated, maybe also with your own agenda. That WOULD fit your character, that you appear as a helpful villager at start (Atlas) just for us to find out later one that in reality you are a bad person (Frank).

So, in the end I see two possibilities: You have made that role up and will tell us that you have been jailed. You made it not up but it will change your alignment to scum. Either way, I don't see us benefitting. I certainly don't believe this to be a role similar to novices. If it was, you'd be confirmed innocent and thats it. That you can also block a nightkill + get a new character + be confirmed innocent? No, sorry, that would just be sooo unfair in comparison to novice that I don't believe it. Especially that you do get a new character is for me an indication that this is not simply "Lewwyn reborn" but indeed a different character with different alignment. Maybe you can even choose your alignment? Also could be an interesting twist on a SK as well, to make sure he can restart if he gets sniffed out.

Anyhow, this a village role? I doubt it. If it is, you are either not telling us all about it or novice got screwed. uberfish made a very good job with balance every single game - I doubt he screwed novice.

[Ryan]

That thing didn't change my mind. You gave me no reason to think you are not the sk.

Do you honestly believe that Uber would give this as an extra part of the SK role? You are looking for reasons not to be wrong.

Why wouldn't he lol ? If you didn't invent this role. This would be an amazing escape as sk. Can you stop attacking me as a person and attack my claims ? It's getting boring now.

[Serdoa]

That role feels like something you came up with tbh. It's pretty big compared to the rest. It doesn't really hide you from being sk. That could be a way to protect the SK. Did anything like this role ever happen ?

I didn't make the goddamn role. Ask Uber.

Uber, does Lewwyn really has that role?

Sorry Lewwyn, I don't think he'll answer

[Ryan]

Amazing post Serdoa.

[Lewwyn]

That thing didn't change my mind. You gave me no reason to think you are not the sk.

Do you honestly believe that Uber would give this as an extra part of the SK role? You are looking for reasons not to be wrong.

Why wouldn't he lol ? If you didn't invent this role. This would be an amazing escape as sk. Can you stop attacking me as a person and attack my claims ? It's getting boring now.

Your claims are wrong and circumstantial. I have been attacking them, there is no substance to them. You just have ignored that.

[Serdoa]

Btw: Meiz, Azza, any reason you guys are not even interested in talking with Lewwyn about his claim? I mean since when have we started not even questioning stuff like that and just accepting it as soon as it is posted?