[SPOILERS] scooter, pindicator, and Huayna Capac try some fast Zulu cuisine

[NobleHelium]

@ IHOP being the capital.

Sure, let's leave the improvements be.

[scooter]

Ok CFCJester finally logged in and burned IHOP. So that answers the question of it it's razeable. Just as well so we get the free palace jump .

I'm guessing it'll jump to Crabs Galore next.

[scooter]

I just worry that we were burned by misjudging him before.

Eh, I don't know if I agree with this. We always knew it was a possibility he would play it that way, but we figured betting that he would play that way was playing not to lose. So we risked it. This isn't really a risk, it's common sense for him to leave us alone for 100T or so.

100 turns? That's ridiculously optimistic. It was common sense for him before too, what's the difference? I'm not sure I would leave us alone for 100 turns.

100T is about how long it'll take him to have Galleons and Rifles, which is about when a reasonable time to invade is. Why exactly do you think it's worth bothering with us before then when there's a bunch of better land out there?

[NobleHelium]

Because...that's what he did before? I would not be surprised if he attacks with knights.

Yeah, I guess Jester was able to burn the city because they didn't have any culture at all in it. Where's our capital now?

[scooter]

Because...that's what he did before? I would not be surprised if he attacks with knights.

Different circumstances.

Yeah, I guess Jester was able to burn the city because they didn't have any culture at all in it. Where's our capital now?

http://www.civstats.com/viewgame.php?gameid=2470

[NobleHelium]

We can log in while he's playing given the fact that he was logged in (and harassing you even) while you were playing.

[scooter]

Ok. So the first half of this turn was rough - first bad half turn of the war. Commodore burned us out of the fog with a pair of axes (lucky for him that for our last 2 builds we went impi-axe rather than axe-impi). Then IHOP got burned. That was actually pretty fortunate, as replacing IHOP is probably easier than building a new palace (and it's kind of a junk city pre-IW), so I'm actually pretty OK with that. But it's still a bummer. Then we logged in to see this.



Urgh! He attacked out. Our chariot won which is well and nice, but the axe attacked our CR axe that was fully healthy. It was a straight 50% battle and he won flawlessly. We also had a brief panic attack freaking over if he got iron or copper from somewhere. As best as we can tell, he isn't. Best guess is he ferried it over from an island or something. We countered by nailing the axe with a wounded shock chariot:



Win. And... OH HELLO THERE.



Oh yes. And that's just 1 archer on defense. This is happening, kids. Let's suicide the chariot first to make sure we weaken the archer enough to make it worth the risk:



Dropped him to 2.0/3 health. Perfect. Let's do this!



Nice perk here - by saving the last promotion we get to use it to heal AND we stay right within the strength ratio where it's still 2XP (and more importantly 2 GG points). Anyways, we win flawlessly so the healing barely even matters:



Quick glance inside:



Well hey, I'll take the granary. Especially in a foodless city, heh.

We had one bad break. Whenever possible, Pindicator and I (and sometimes Noble like tonight) will try to play through the turn live via chat - or at least these critical war turns. Anyways, I thought I was replying in gchat, and did not realize I still had the game selected (I use windowed mode at lower resolution so it doesn't take up the full screen). Anyways, I told a galley to auto-explore . Oops! Not a huge deal, but it still is unfortunate. We did find another Trireme:



So we're just going to advance by land and stack up all the galleys and dare him to slam into them. He'll kill a galley for sure, but we'll have a decent chance to counter-attack. Inside CC he's got 2 archers and an axe (behind walls), so that city will not be trivial to capture. It's ok though, time is mostly on our side here.

We did offer a peace deal to India:



Would be surprised if they take it, but it's worth a shot. Those are their two island cities. Here they are:



We used our worker down there to scout Clam City from across the water. We have a galley looping around the south, and we should be able to load up a chariot and boat this thing out of the fog. FG will be a little harder because we have no idea where any Triremes might be, and he'll see us coming from an hour away. We'll see.

Let's take a step back and look at our 4 city empire. I renamed all the cities:



I loved the Sid's Sushi idea, so of course I picked that. Dairy Queen down in snowland makes sense right? Look at our finances. We're bleeding some serious gold. Of course, this is because all 4 of our cities are in revolt and therefore producing nothing. Wait. This is probably doing amaaaazing things to our GNP right?



YESSSSS. Best demo screenshot ever. I've never seen ANYTHING like that -27 GNP before. Beautiful. I especially like that -48 trade route number . Everyone is getting juicy IC routes to us, but we can't get any with all our cities still in revolt. So we have a nice solution to this:



Get a revolt out of the way now while we would be otherwise just lighting $28 on fire. Rough turn to start where a lot of things went wrong, but all things considered, I think we salvaged it.

(also, poor CFCJester is going to be SO confused when he sees on Civstats we captured the horse city )

[fluffyflyingpig]

You clearly did not read the mansa's muse tournament reports.

Looking good so far!

[pindicator]

This has got to be one of the most awesome civ games I have ever been a part of.

[pindicator]

I saw that Nakor logged in after you ended turn and decided to see if he took the deal or offered a counter. But we're still at war and he didn't offer any counter. Ah well, til death do us part.

Commodore asked to trade World Maps and Open Borders. Didn't accept right away but I'm trying to have a hard time giving it to him. World Maps are probably okay - they'll get traded around anyway - but I'm not too keep on giving him open borders until we can profit from it too.