February 23rd, 2013, 16:43
(This post was last modified: February 23rd, 2013, 16:43 by SevenSpirits.)
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Smackdown votes:
(February 22nd, 2013, 19:20)SevenSpirits Wrote: GENERAL SETTINGS
Always War (Yes/No)? Yes
Handicap level (Deity/Immortal/Other)? Deity if cylinder, Immortal if Toroid
Game Speed (Quick/Normal)? Quick
Banned Wonders (Specify if any)? Weak vote for Statue of Zeus, strong vote for no other bans
Banned Other (1st post suggested War Elephants, Spy missions, and Nukes only)? Just those three
Barbarians (Off/On/Raging)? Off
MAP INSTRUCTIONS
Approx. Map Type (Lakes/Other)? Lakes
Circumnavigation available* (Yes/No)? No
Map wrap (None/Cylinder/Toroid/Up to Plako)? Cylinder or Toroid: up to Plako
Natural vs Only good land? Natural
Mirrored (Completely/With minor differences/Capitals only/No)? No
If not mirrored, Fair vs Random**? Fair
TEAM GAME ABUSE PREVENTION CENTER
City gifting (None/First turn only/Other)? First turn only
Can accept trades or cancel them when one partner has ended turn and the other one hasn't (no/not if includes resources or gpt/not if includes gpt/yes)***? not if includes resources or gpt
Can trade GPT (gold per turn) (yes/no)****? yes
Can strike (yes/only if not currently gifting gpt to partner/not if it's avoidable with partner's help)? only if not currently gifting gpt to partner
LEADER/CIV ASSIGNMENT
Some sort of snake pick i.e. no leader/civ can exist more than once in the game (yes/no)? Yes
See starts before pick (yes/no)? Yes
Allow a team to have 2 copies of a trait (yes/no)? Yes
Tie snake pick order to reverse turn order (yes/no)? Yes
Snake pick order (4321123443211234, 4321123443214321, 4321432143214321, other)? 4321432143214321
Bans (any or all of: India, Inca, Pacal, Willem, other)? Those four
PITBOSS STUFF
Allow reload requests for bad mistakes? No formal process, just common courtesy
Time limit? Don't care
New random seed on reload, right? Yes
ALSO
Starting unit(s)? Scout only, for all teams
February 23rd, 2013, 17:11
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As an aside, here's a little chat-with-Krill excerpt, talking about settings (Krill just mentioned the possibility of deity barbs alongside scout starts, and I said people usually vote barbs down):
Quote:Krill: There are just too many variables to say that any one decision is right or wrong. I'd just hate for PB10 to be like PB3 with a mishmash of settings and everyone loathes the game after 10 turns
me: I think if I were in pb3, and we played with no tech trading and always war, and everyone started with four techs instead of two and had a 1.33x multiplier on their tech rate, I would have loved it 
Krill: I dare you to post that publicly
Since it seems like a wise personal policy to always accept dares from Krill, there you are.
February 23rd, 2013, 17:21
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February 24th, 2013, 07:32
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Any consensus concernig the map yet? Seems like most have preference for natural but fair map based on spoiler threads (You're not making it easy for me). If that is the case, I probably could start. Bevare that it is nearly imbossible mission to have a natural look and feel map that would also be fair in all respects.
February 24th, 2013, 08:00
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(February 23rd, 2013, 17:21)Krill Wrote: ![[Image: RBPB3NO.png]](http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj417/KevinRill/RBPB3NO.png)
Got to second Krill though on this one. You never know what the majority will vote on and certain combinations of settings will result in a less then fun game.
(Although I remember PB3 not because of the strange settings, but the time sink of 17 players and diplo on)
Our team will have decided on settings soon.
February 24th, 2013, 09:03
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Okay, here are our votes. Some were close.
Locked-in settings:
Sequential team turns pitboss, ancient start, no vassal states, no goody huts, no random events, no tech trading, no communication with other teams. Trades with other teams allowed IF we don't choose always war.
GENERAL SETTINGS
Always War (Yes/No)? Yes
Handicap level (Deity/Immortal/Other)? Immortal
Game Speed (Quick/Normal)? Quick
Banned Wonders (Specify if any)? TGLighthouse
Banned Other (1st post suggested War Elephants, Spy missions, and Nukes only)? WE, switch civic/religion, nukes
Barbarians (Off/On/Raging)? Off
MAP INSTRUCTIONS
Approx. Map Type (Lakes/Other)? Lakes
Circumnavigation available* (Yes/No)? No
Map wrap (None/Cylinder/Toroid/Up to Plako)? Cylinder
Natural vs Only good land? Natural
Mirrored (Completely/With minor differences/Capitals only/No)? No
If not mirrored, Fair vs Random**? Fair
TEAM GAME ABUSE PREVENTION CENTER
City gifting (None/First turn only/Other)? None
Can accept trades when one partner has ended turn and the other one hasn't (no/not if includes resources or gpt/not if includes gpt/yes)***? No
Can trade GPT (gold per turn) (yes/no)****? No
Can strike (yes/only if not currently gifting gpt to partner/not if it's avoidable with partner's help)? No
LEADER/CIV ASSIGNMENT
Some sort of snake pick i.e. no leader/civ can exist more than once in the game (yes/no)? Yes
See starts before pick (yes/no)? Yes
Allow a team to have 2 copies of a trait (yes/no)? Yes
Tie snake pick order to reverse turn order (yes/no)? Yes
Snake pick order (4321123443211234, 4321123443214321, 4321432143214321, other)? First option
Bans (any or all of: India, Inca, Pacal, Willem, other)? Big Four
PITBOSS STUFF
Allow reload requests for bad mistakes? No
Time limit? 24 hours
New random seed on reload, right? No
February 24th, 2013, 10:10
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Options as already voted on:
Quote:AW
Deity or tie
Quick or tie
No banned wonders
WE/spies/Nukes
Barbs off or tie
Lakes
No circumnavigation or tie
wrap map makers choice or cylinder (seriously suggest Cylinder)
Natural map or tie
No mirrored land (or capital only and a tie)
Fair land, not random
Still waiting on RMOG for the rest and LAM for the entirety of their votes.
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February 24th, 2013, 17:39
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RMoG Votes:
AW: Yes
Difficulty: Immortal
Game Speed: Quick
Banned Wonders Statue of Liberty, Cristo Redentor, MoM
Banned Other: WE, Spies, Nukes. Suggestion that the map isn't such that Sid's Sushi and Mining Inc aren't ungodly overpowered, but corps are fine.
Barbs Off
MAP STUFF
- Mapmaker's discretion. All of us would prefer a 'fair' map.
City Gifting: 1st Turn Only
Can accept trades when one partner has ended turn and the other one hasn't: Yes
Can Trade GPT: No
Can Strike: Yes
Snakepick: Yes
See Start Before Pick: No. However, we want to be able to pick a start for each Civ afterwards a la PB6
Duplicate Traits: No
Tie snake pick order to reverse turn order: No
Snake Pick Order: 4321123443211234
Bans: The Big Four
Reloads for big mistakes: No
Timer: 18-24 hours per team
New Random Seed: No
Blockades and Corps both unbanned
Starting Units: One Scout
February 25th, 2013, 01:49
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Current votes in the order Smack, 4H, RMOG2
GENERAL SETTINGS
Always War (Yes/No)? Yes, Yes, Yes
Handicap level (Deity/Immortal/Other)? Deity if cylinder, Immortal if Toroid, Immortal, Immortal
Game Speed (Quick/Normal)? Quick, Quick, Quick
Banned Wonders (Specify if any)? Weak vote for Statue of Zeus, strong vote for no other bans, TGLighthouse, SoZ, Cristo Redentor, MoM
Banned Other (1st post suggested War Elephants, Spy missions, and Nukes only)? Just those three, WE, switch civic/religion, nukes, just those 3
Barbarians (Off/On/Raging)? Off, Off, Off
MAP INSTRUCTIONS
Approx. Map Type (Lakes/Other)? Lakes, Lakes, -
Circumnavigation available* (Yes/No)? No, No, -
Map wrap (None/Cylinder/Toroid/Up to Plako)? Cylinder or Toroid: up to Plako, Cylinder, -
Natural vs Only good land? Natural, Natural, -
Mirrored (Completely/With minor differences/Capitals only/No)? No, No, -
If not mirrored, Fair vs Random**? Fair, Fair, -
TEAM GAME ABUSE PREVENTION CENTER
City gifting (None/First turn only/Other)? First turn only, None, 1st turn only
Can accept trades or cancel them when one partner has ended turn and the other one hasn't (no/not if includes resources or gpt/not if includes gpt/yes)***? not if includes resources or gpt, No, yes
Can trade GPT (gold per turn) (yes/no)****? yes, No, No
Can strike (yes/only if not currently gifting gpt to partner/not if it's avoidable with partner's help)? only if not currently gifting gpt to partner, No, Yes
LEADER/CIV ASSIGNMENT
Some sort of snake pick i.e. no leader/civ can exist more than once in the game (yes/no)? Yes, Yes, Yes
See starts before pick (yes/no)? Yes, Yes, No
Allow a team to have 2 copies of a trait (yes/no)? Yes, Yes, No
Tie snake pick order to reverse turn order (yes/no)? Yes, Yes, No
Snake pick order (4321123443211234, 4321123443214321, 4321432143214321, other)? 4321432143214321, First option, 4321123443211234
Bans (any or all of: India, Inca, Pacal, Willem, other)? Those four, Big Four, The Big Four
PITBOSS STUFF
Allow reload requests for bad mistakes? No formal process, just common courtesy, No, No
Time limit? Don't care, 24 hours, 18-24h per team
New random seed on reload, right? Yes, No, No
ALSO
Starting unit(s)? Scout only, for all teams, -, One scout
February 25th, 2013, 01:57
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So I'll start map assuming everything else default but these (most relevant settings for map making):
* Lakes script, circumnav not available, wrap Cylinder
* Natural and not mirrored, but fair
* Difficulty Immortal or Deity
* No banned wonders (Only GLH availability is affecting more than little to map making)
* WEs banned
* Barbarians off
* Scout start
Naturally these are also taken into account:
Sequential team turns pitboss, ancient start, no vassal states, no goody huts, no random events, no tech trading, no communication with other teams. Trades with other teams allowed IF we don't choose always war.
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