February 25th, 2013, 15:00
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We need meditation for Philosophy as well, so that's zero sum. If the failgold from SoZ would allow Pacifism during our golden age, I vote for that.
I still like planting on ivory. We still need a defensive city, it will be the far corner of our empire long after the current CivPlayers NAP expires.
February 25th, 2013, 15:02
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Not sure at all about the timings, but by chopping out Paya I guess we could both have our cake and eat it, right? That is, the golden age civic swaps to Bureau and pacifism without having to wait for Philo and thereby "wasting" CS for a number of turns.
Edit: Kinda crossposted with Merovech there
February 25th, 2013, 15:04
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I like the idea of building Paya in FP, if we can do it without much difficulty. I don't think we should be whipping FP to generate failgold, because it grows really slowly. We could just finish the worker conventionally and it wouldn't be that slow.
February 25th, 2013, 15:27
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(February 25th, 2013, 15:00)Ceiliazul Wrote: We need meditation for Philosophy as well, so that's zero sum. If the failgold from SoZ would allow Pacifism during our golden age, I vote for that.
I still like planting on ivory. We still need a defensive city, it will be the far corner of our empire long after the current CivPlayers NAP expires.
meditation is considerably cheaper than philosophy, so its not a zero sum. we could put off philosophy until after we have education w/ with the paya.
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February 25th, 2013, 15:45
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Another alternative, just to put it out there, is to follow the original plan, and fire a second 2-GP golden age for the third (and possibly fourth) civic swap. I.e. run two 8-turn golden ages, possibly with some non-GA turns in between. And then nab a third from the Taj? Will be expensive without marble, though.
If you know what I mean.
February 25th, 2013, 15:45
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If we're sitting on CS without going into BUR immediately, might it be worth it to slot something else in first (I assume we don't desperately need chain irrigation that badly anywhere). At the very least maybe go Aesthetics before CS I'd say.
February 25th, 2013, 16:26
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I was going to mention Paya too! Yep, I support that idea, as we're currently tech limited, but not hammer limited.
And while teching Philosophy is going to be essential for Liberalism later, I think that there it can wait. I'd rather divert those beakers into something that is guaranteed to be valuable now. Plus, we can easily slot in Paya before the planned Golden Age, unlike Philosophy. Plus, we were planning on teching Drama as well, but really, Drama can wait.
What other cities are good candidates for building wonders in?
February 25th, 2013, 18:29
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Can we build Paya in Brick, and Zeus in Focal Point? I think Paya is more expensive in base hammers, but if we could pull it off this would resolve the dangers of putting Zeus in a border city.
February 25th, 2013, 18:31
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I dunno, I'm aware of the risk of putting SoZ in BbB, and it still doesn't really bother me. The added culture would make that city pretty impossible to sneak up on.
February 25th, 2013, 19:00
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Not only that, but we have what, 34 turns to fortify BbB? With all the culture pushed out, and a huge latest tech military, they ain't heading towards us.
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