The Dark arts - C&D Master Thread

[Fintourist]

Before ending their turn, CFC performed three whips. Lana was whipped from size 10 to 8, Lakshmi was whipped 6 to 5, and an unknown city was 1-pop whipped.

Did these whips create many soldier points for CFC?

[kjn]

Did these whips create many soldier points for CFC?

All in due time. Or get an account on the APTmod web site, and you can check for yourself.

[Fintourist]

Did these whips create many soldier points for CFC?

All in due time. Or get an account on the APTmod web site, and you can check for yourself.

Sorry, did not want to pressure you! I was just curious and thought that you might have the answer already in hand!

[kjn]

Can't connect to the game right now after WPC's in-game diplo note, so any C&D screenies that I take will have to wait until tomorrow.

If someone else can log into the game, I'd like to get:

The demos screen
The F8 screen
The F4 tech trading screen

[SevenSpirits]

Libraries do produce culture on the turn they are built, so they built one library at most in that whipping spree if they gained 2 cpt.

Hm, that's not true. Production happens before after everything except GPP.

[NobleHelium]

You mean after everything...

[SevenSpirits]

Thanks, fixed.

[T-hawk]

Really? I coulda sworn I've seen monuments and wonders producing culture right away. But no, you're probably right, culture is a commerce type so happens along with gold and science early in the doTurn cycle, before city-by-city production.

[SevenSpirits]

Well, Stonehenge does give culture in further cities. And religion of course gives culture on turn of founding. Maybe you were thinking of one of those things.

Culture actually happens in the city-by-city step, too, btw. It just happens before production. (That's why stonehenge monuments can start working immediately in later cities.)

[kjn]

T112 - 75BC

Cliff's Notes: CFC built the Pyramids and is the new rival best in power. Univers has built five Rathauses. Otherwise mostly pop growth.

Demos:

Score table:

Team	Score change	Pop	Tech	Land	Wonders
RB	9	9 (+4 pop; 84 total)
Spanish	3	3 (+1 pop; 24 total)
Germans	3	3 (+1 pop; 43 total)
CivFr	5	5 (+2 pop; 62 total)
CivPlayers	8	8 (+3 pop; 38 total)
CFC	21	5 (+2 pop; 62 total)			16 (Pyramids)
Univers	13	7 (+3 pop; 56 total)		6 (Bibendum 9 tiles; 113 total)

Score analysis

F8 shows 12 new rival global pop points, and there are no unknown land tiles to assign. GNP analysis shows no new known techs. 9 land tiles were claimed by border expansions.

Spanish: Grew one pop, for 24 total.

Germans: Grew one pop, for 43 total.

CivFr: Grew two pop, for 62 total. The two cities grew either to 7 and 2, or to 6 and 4.

CivPlayers: Grew three pop, for 38 total. They can't have researched a tech, since a single pop point would give them three score, not two.

CFC: Finished the Pyramids in Terasvin. Daivagasi and Lana grew to 6, for 62 total pop.

Univers: Received 6 land score from Bibendum, leaving exactly 7 score for the last 3 pop points. They have 56 total pop.

Power analysis

Global power rose with 51000. Power increases from pop were 1000 to the Spanish, CivFr, and CFC; and 2000 to CivPlayers and Univers. CFC passed the Germans as the rival best in power, and I believe CivPlayers passed another team as the rival worst in power.

Other

Univers increased their EP generation from 4 to 14, ie they 5 Rathauses on T111. Claimed land increased by 9 tiles.

Turn development

We whipped 2 pop in Brick by Brick. Apolyton settled their tenth city, Gaziantep, which claimed 7 tiles and brought them to 44 pop. Rival worst in power increased with 1000 from this, making me think Apolyton is the current rival worst.

CFC performed a 2-pop whip of an unknown city, bringing them to 62 pop. The Germans performed 2 2-pop whips, bringing them to 39 pop. Univers performed a 1-pop whip, and 55 pop.