Intersite Game - Turn Discussion Thread

[kjn]

Institute a DMZ, by plopping a settler of our own down on the marble

[novice]

It's worth opening dialogue with CFC about, though. We could gift them a worker or settler or something in exchange for them settling and hooking marble, and gifting it to us on the turn that we need it.

[kjn]

Not sure I'm up to gifting them a worker or settler for that - they've already received stone and spices from us!

But asking them about the marble - absolutely. But the marble city will be quite exposed to the Spanish team, so I wouldn't be surprised if CFC can't (or won't) do it.

[NobleHelium]

Obvious solution is that we plant a temporary city on the marble and then gift it to CFC after the war.

[novice]

Not sure I'm up to gifting them a worker or settler for that - they've already received stone and spices from us!

But asking them about the marble - absolutely. But the marble city will be quite exposed to the Spanish team, so I wouldn't be surprised if CFC can't (or won't) do it.

Bottom line, why should they lift a finger to help us land Taj Mahal? They have every excuse not to have hooked marble, and once they do they would normally want to use it themselves first, to get their epics up and running. So I think they might need an incentive, and it would be worth it for us. After all, it would save us hundreds of hammers on TM and might help us deny the wonder from CivFr.

Of course I assume Scooter won't open the dialogue with "Hey, CFC, want a free settler?".

[scooter]

Yeah I'm hesitant because I imagine it goes like this:

RB: um so when are you going to hook that marble for us guys?
CFC: yeah well we can't right now because we're in a war - a war you decided not to help us for
RB: oh right that
CFC: yeah

[novice]

Yeah I'm hesitant because I imagine it goes like this:

RB: um so when are you going to hook that marble for us guys?
CFC: yeah well we can't right now because we're in a war - a war you decided not to help us for
RB: oh right that
CFC: yeah

RB: we're helping your war effort by providing you with a safe flank and a free happy resource

At least asking let's us know if/when we will have marble.

[Sullla]

I logged into the game, swapped our research over to Philosophy tech (we'll knock out about 75% of the cost this turn and leave it uncompleted for overflow purposes later), gifted the Hindu missionary over to the German team, and then ended turn.

With regards to Taj Mahal, we shouldn't count on getting marble from CFC and should make plans to build the wonder without it. I personally do not like the idea to gift a settler to CFC for marble or anything like that. Our deal with them only requires them to send us marble before the end of the deal, so they could easily stall until Turn 150 or something, by which time it's far too late. And CFC has every incentive to do exactly that. I would not count on them, or go out of our way to gift away settlers/workers. For this very reason, I'm liking the idea more of a double Education lightbulb that lets us get started on Taj very very early, as soon as T131. If it takes us 18 turns to build the wonder like my estimates are suggesting, better to begin immediately when everyone else still has thousands of beakers left to research on Nationalism.

I'm going to play around with the sandbox some more while watching the baseball games today and see what I can turn up.

[darrelljs]

As painful as it might be to offer them yet another freebie, the cost of Settler hammers <<< cost of hammers saved by building Taj/HE/NE with Marble. If we provide them with a detailed, idiot proof, mirco plan with loaned (not gitfted!) Workers its net win for both of us. The diplomatic logistics of pulling it off are daunting, but worth it.

All this presumes we can trust them to keep their end of any bargain, which I happen to believe .

Darrell

[Tyrmith]

That assumes it's even possible for them to settle near the marble with this war going on.