Diplomacy Master Thread- Helping Your Opponents Beat Themselves

[Cyneheard]

Hi Caledorn,

Thanks for the offer but its not a good time, can we have it in about 10 turns? I'm sure you need it for something since the Spanish have delayed its hook up for so long.

Your Friends,
RB

That's good - it says "we know what you did" without being threatening.

[darrelljs]

Hi Caledorn,

Thanks for the offer but its not a good time, can we have it in about 10 turns? I'm sure you need it for something since the Spanish have delayed its hook up for so long.

Your Friends,
RB

That's good - it says "we know what you did" without being threatening.

Yeah, that's the best one I've seen yet .

Edit: I might change the smiley to a winking smiley.

Darrell

[Ellimist]

Spies don't get caught when you have OB. Does CFC even have Alphabet?

I was not aware of this. I don't use spies very often.

Azoth:
Just because we aren't planning to attack CFC doesn't mean there isn't value in making them wonder if we are. They would NAP-stab us over the sort of BS they just did, so they will be wondering if we would do the same. Especially given our history with Imperio in the previous game.

Why are we so eager to reassure these guys? How does that possibly benefit us in any way, now or ever? Even if you're right and we want a NAP renewal with them, we're more likely to get it if they perceive us as dangerous. If we make it abundantly clear, as we hae so far, that we would NEVER EVER EVER attack them, a NAP has zero value to them and they will continue openly doing things that jeopardize it.

[Shoot the Moon]

Spies don't get caught when you have OB. Does CFC even have Alphabet?

I was not aware of this. I don't use spies very often.

Azoth:
Just because we aren't planning to attack CFC doesn't mean there isn't value in making them wonder if we are. They would NAP-stab us over the sort of BS they just did, so they will be wondering if we would do the same. Especially given our history with Imperio in the previous game.

Why are we so eager to reassure these guys? How does that possibly benefit us in any way, now or ever? Even if you're right and we want a NAP renewal with them, we're more likely to get it if they perceive us as dangerous. If we make it abundantly clear, as we hae so far, that we would NEVER EVER EVER attack them, a NAP has zero value to them and they will continue openly doing things that jeopardize it.

It benefits us, because it means they won't buildup in reaction to a perceived threat from us. If they think that we are going to attack them, then they will buildup military in response. We don't want a neighbor building up military, especially considering we are planning to use ours on the exact opposite side of our empire shortly.

[T-hawk]

Spies don't get caught when you have OB.

What? Yes they do. The chance is considerably lower, but they do.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=247719

[scooter]

I really like that new ASM draft. I'm pretty sure I'll send it shortly, probably with the face like darrell suggested.

[NobleHelium]

Spies don't get caught when you have OB.

What? Yes they do. The chance is considerably lower, but they do.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=247719

Hmmmm... not sure how I remembered that incorrectly. And it's not a linear modifier which is annoying.

[Fintourist]

I'm a bit sceptical about the "your friends" signature. Sounds to me very ironic, but following this discussion makes me biased..

[scooter]

I think the purpose of it is to be subtly sarcastic/ironic. Not nastily so, just enough.

[darrelljs]

I think the purpose of it is to be subtly sarcastic/ironic. Not nastily so, just enough.

That's certainly how I took it...its not like they haven't earned some subtle sarcasm .

Darrell