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Strategic directions - long-term planning

#271
May 9th, 2013, 17:35
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I think our strategy on how to defend the dogpile will depend a lot on how the game looks around turn 160. If everything is going well, we should be marching through Germania and negotiating with Civplayers and Apolyton about extensions.
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#272
May 9th, 2013, 22:23
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(May 9th, 2013, 17:35)pindicator Wrote: I think our strategy on how to defend the dogpile will depend a lot on how the game looks around turn 160. If everything is going well, we should be marching through Germania and negotiating with Civplayers and Apolyton about extensions.

I agree with this, but it wouldn't hurt to think about pinch-points, staging-posts and where we want roads for self-defense before this point. I'm sure this is all stuff Sulla has been thinking about as a matter of course, but it'd be good to go over where enemy stacks could come from and how we'll dismantle them. hammer
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#273
May 10th, 2013, 13:29
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My take of the upcoming war is that the Germans are probably more inclined to defend against WPC's attack than ours. First, because there they actually stand a decent chance to deal out some damage with units on the same tech level and they have crossed blades with them before.
So an early blunting of the WPC thrust is likely. Which means we would have to take care of most of the conquering as no matter what our deals say with WPC, we need that war to end as quickly as possible. Spoils sharing can be discussed with WPC later.

The cities furthest away are 16-17 tiles distance. Safely marching a capturing force up there will take a lot of time. As much as I would prefer Sullla's 15-20 turn estimate, I would put my money on 25-35 turns until the Germans are wiped out.

Also: separate thread for war tactics?

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#274
May 10th, 2013, 15:17
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(May 10th, 2013, 13:29)mostly_harmless Wrote: Also: separate thread for war tactics?

Yes.
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May 10th, 2013, 16:04
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(May 10th, 2013, 15:17)kjn Wrote:
(May 10th, 2013, 13:29)mostly_harmless Wrote: Also: separate thread for war tactics?

Yes.

Agreed.
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May 10th, 2013, 17:58
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(May 10th, 2013, 13:29)mostly_harmless Wrote: Spoils sharing can be discussed with WPC later.

from the game rules Wrote:02. In Game Actions
c. City Gifting - Conquest, culture flip, UN resolution, and AP resolution are the only permitted methods of city transfer.

So - if we are going to share the German spoils, it would have to be via a dummy war.
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May 10th, 2013, 19:06 (This post was last modified: May 10th, 2013, 19:07 by NobleHelium.)
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Pretty sure our "deal" with WPC is "everyone keep what they get" and we're sticking to that...
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May 11th, 2013, 10:13
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(May 10th, 2013, 19:06)NobleHelium Wrote: Pretty sure our "deal" with WPC is "everyone keep what they get" and we're sticking to that...

That was my recollection too - and fine by me. Seemed that MH was a little undecided / unclear about city division.
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May 11th, 2013, 15:18
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We should contact them though.
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May 11th, 2013, 15:55
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Contact WPC yes, but not about dividing the spoils. I think we need to discuss the following points primarily:

Should we aim to declare war on T150 or some other later turn (our NAP runs out on T150, so one can make the case that we shouldn't declare until T151)?

What is the general plan and routes of advance for each of us? Apart from them coming from the east and going west, and us coming from the south and going north, that is. What will be our primary objectives to take on the first turns of the war?

Intelligence sharing, mainly about the disposition of the German military.

How to handle a naval campaign, if needed.

All those things needs to be discussed before we start to settle on dividing the German lands prematurely.
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