[SPOILERS] TT tries yet again to not be terrible

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do you remember what turn you made the trade? how long before you turned the turns over to me? I can try to squeeze in parthenon i guess if we're stuck with marble for 3-4 more turns. I need stone back, though, there are more important wonders that require it.

I think foreign trade routes will be more valuable than the free specialists here. and will allow us to run higher than a 0% slider, lol. we'll see though, we can swtich back in 5 turns if it doesnt work out.

ill think about attacking cornflakes, once im back in nationalism. ive got a scout over there, but I think it will require commodore making some gains. cornflakes has the highest power rating.

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also, the Q area close to us is azza's territory, so its going to be less developed than his core. still, if we can get a 3 way war:


I don't understand the rules here. is 2metra obligated to attack as well if I accept this?

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nm, using xenu's trick I see they are at war already. hmm. going to have to think about this.

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I think you can tell how many turns for the marble deal from F4 / Active, then mouseover the trade?

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also got another requested from Q to go to war with 2 metra, haha. turned them both down. constitution is pretty worthless to us atm, since we have the pyramids.


2metra doesnt exactly come off as a military genius here. he has a solid front with q, why is he attacking from commodores front? and why did he move onto the jungle tile with no road, slowing himself down?

still, after looking around.. i was beginning to think there was nothing to be done to prevent cornflakes from winning at this point, so if the 2 of them are going to go after a dogpile we might as well join in. so I moved troops in position to attack azza's former city.. its juicy, has gold, size 8, and food, so that will be a nice prize. might hav eto raze after that. I did insist my price was higher, though:




should I reoffer the trade deal to AT, with the stipulation that he declare war on cornflakes?

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hehe this is fun. Got a little slimy here.

So I logged on just now: only AT has played. 2metra accepted my deal, so I take that as I'm obligated to DOW before the turn ends. but I probably would prefer being after cornflakes, and anyway im ready to go to bed and play the turn when I wake up.


i accepted this. love the nervous appeasement. won't even get to keep these for a turn, but might as well not hope for some surprise.

SOOO.. if this was ai it would enforce a peace deal.. I really don't think that happens in MP. I hope thats right, otherwise I unintentionally cheated and am going to have to ask for a reload. lol, I hope not.


since im not DOW until teh end of turn, and commodore hasn't moved yet, might as well try to double dip:


I'm going to declare whether he accepts or not, but he doesnt know that, hehe .

AT started education and it only takes 5 turns.. I might should reoffer the deal I refused, just to not lose out on beakers. constitution would at least allow me to trade for democracy down the road if someone else ressearches it. might attaach a little gold on my end and a "declare war on cornflakes" on his end, to make this a fun 4 way dogpile .

[NobleHelium]

It wouldn't be a peace treaty with an AI either. It needs to be a demand in SP.

[Twinkletoes89]

I'm finding it odd that Cornflakes offered us Ivory & Gold for free...

I like the double dealing though it is a little iffy as I think you should have, in the spirit, declared immediately after accepting.

Is this a token fight or are you actually attacking?

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oh I'm attacking i have combat workers in place and will be in position to take a city 2nd turn of war, depending on if he's added garrison to that city (doubtful as he's got a 2 way war elsewhere). that city actually has gold. it doesnt surprise me that he gave us that for free, he's trying to bribe us out of the war

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well commodore accepted my proposed deal. with 2 different civs bribing me to go to war with cornflakes, I guess I have to go to war .
I probably could have gotten more than 100 gold, but didn't want to be greedy since I had to DOW even if he turned down the deal.

3v1 is not good enough odds, lets see if I can make this a real dogpile:


seems pretty lopsided in his favor, so I hope he accepts. regardless I can't do shit for research and have to us TT as I can for gaining beakers, even if they aren't especially useful techs at the moment. I suppose i'll need optics for astronomy, and maybe cornflakes will research democracy
I do plan to take Lewwyns advice and not accept peace until cornflakes is willing to give up chemistry. plus a city or two, and a few razed hehe.


somehow commodore and 2metra have a worse economy than us, not sure how.


anyway, onto the war:


this taken before I declared. this jackass did an automove before I could stop him and used up his movement points, but it shows this city undefended. hehe, that will change. too bad I have no navy on this side of the map.

the northern front:

if he's smart he'll retreat, I think, and abandon the city. this city I will keep, and raze a few around it to create an culture free border.

southern front:

ok not much here, wasn't prepared for war out of insanity wolf. but I did capture this worker, which I hope to keep I have new drafted muskets en route, and also this stack of single movers:


minus the axe, which is military police.


this happen as the turn rolled:


k, obviously I selected no vote here. But are AP resolutions banned? I think so, but don't remember. If not, could always come in handy if the tide turns.