Went ahead and sent that draft as-is since I need to sleep.
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Diplomacy Master Thread- Helping Your Opponents Beat Themselves
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Here's an idea I had. We could offer WPC protection in the future. We don't want them to be eaten by someone else, and that would give them a reasonable assurance of survival. Not sure how to best word this, but something like: "the reality is that either of your neighbors can conquer you with relative ease and one or two more former German cities would not help you that much".
I am not sure if this is worth our effort, but having a friendly WPC as a safe border beats having CFC or Univers. Also, if we announce publicly this protection that would be a strong deterrent. What do you all think of this idea? Kalin
Maybe offer them to negotiate a separate peace with the Germans?
mh
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Not sure what that would do other than give us more cities?
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Or alternatively we make peace with the Germans now separately. WPC should be able to eventually overcome a 3-4 city German state. Not sure how much the "we yearn the motherland" unhappiness is going to affect us?
mh
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Peace with Germans, watch Germans kill WPC.
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July 11th, 2013, 01:01
(This post was last modified: July 11th, 2013, 01:07 by Nicolae Carpathia.)
Peeaaccee. Noooo peace.
Besides, we don't just want to get rid of motherland unhappy, I want to get rid of German cultural borders, else we have no good tiles. And I have zero confidence in WPC eventually running over the Germans, 4 city rump state or no not.
How about this:
We capture and keep Westheim (westernmost tundra city). Alternatively we raze and re-settle 1W of its current position. We raze the remaining three cities and allow WPC to resettle this area as they see fit, not threatening our BFCs of course.
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