Diplomacy Master Thread- Helping Your Opponents Beat Themselves

[Cyneheard]

M_H: Unfortunately I am pretty convinced that another team will conquer WPC before their friendship can matter like you say. How long do you think they will survive?

This is a team that brought archers to attack longbows. Someone's going to find them an easy target.

[scooter]

Got some feedback from a couple people by chat. Draft 2:

Beta,

Well it looks like the German team has given us an opening to help try to save your city! We are able to take Warendorf and Wilhelm both this turn, which will make the cultural borders disappear. That will allow our main 1-moving stack to move along roads in neutral territory and wipe out the group that is on the pigs tile. How safe is Huron River right now?

I do feel like there is a misunderstanding between us about the nature of our agreement. We said going into the war our goal was to end it as soon as possible. We wouldn't race you, in that we would take only our half first, and from there move west to east. For instance, if you can take a city this turn, we would be happy to let you go first. However, we do urgently need to finish this war ASAP because our western neighbors recently informed us they will be ending their NAP agreements with us. We need to be able to defend that front very soon, so we're trying to move as quickly as possible.

Let us know if there's anything at all we can do to help you in protecting against the Incan team. I'm not sure where their primary stack is at right now since we can't see it quite yet.

Thanks,
scooter - Team RB

[Boldly Going Nowhere]

I like this version better. WPC won't but they'll have to live with their disappointment until someone puts them out of their misery.

Would it be helpful to swap screen shots prior to moving units? I would like to know if they will be able to take Warendorf. Sorry if that's already been established. Good draft.

[Bigger]

yeah the version with 7's recommendations is pretty good.

[scooter]

Sent to WPC with a very minor edit on wording in paragraph 1:

Beta,

Well it looks like the German team has given us an opening to help try to save your city! We are able to take Warendorf and Wilhelm both this turn, which will make the cultural borders disappear. That will allow our main 1-moving stack to move along roads in neutral territory and hopefully defeat the group that is on the pigs tile. How safe is Huron River right now?

I do feel like there is a misunderstanding between us about the nature of our agreement. We said going into the war our goal was to end it as soon as possible. We wouldn't race you, in that we would take only our half first, and from there move west to east. For instance, if you can take a city this turn, we would be happy to let you go first. However, we do urgently need to finish this war ASAP because our western neighbors recently informed us they will be ending their NAP agreements with us. We need to be able to defend that front very soon, so we're trying to move as quickly as possible.

Let us know if there's anything at all we can do to help you in protecting against the Incan team. I'm not sure where their primary stack is at right now since we can't see it quite yet.

Thanks,
scooter - Team RB

[pindicator]

No pleases?

[NobleHelium]

If your message fails I am totally blaming the lack of pleases.

[antisocialmunky]

I wonder what it looks like in the CivFR forum. If they thought the Spanish rolling over was silly enough to call the Spanish out on potential cheesy play, what do they think about actual cheesy revenge play by the Germans.

[sooooo]

I didn't get chance to read this before it was sent. The first sentence is patronising, saying essentially "Good news! We're caPturing the city you've spent the last 10 turns trying to capture and the city we told you to focus on!". That's not good news. I thing we should take the southern city that,s left and WPC should have the rest. If that means raze and resettle warendorf then so be it. The fact that we don't think they will be much use to us later in the game is not relevant IMO. Leaving cities for them is simply the right thing to do.

[Nicolae Carpathia]

Yeah what Sooo said. If I got that message I'd be god damn furious and work to destroy you with everything I could manage. Raze, let them have some tablescraps, and once someone else eats them we counterattack and claim that territory for ourselves. Remember, we're #1 in land, time to play safe and conservative.