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(April 27th, 2014, 12:36)mackoti Wrote: Some pacifist , presented at the palace saying they have the solution, therea plant named sugar beet which could be cultivated somewere in great empire and not need to start a war to get that damn sugar.When Mehmed hear this became very concerned because he told to the vizirs to not tell anyone about all this and this freaks which dont like guns and whales are theyr love came to him with this stupid solution, a beet which gave sugar.He called right away some janasary to put them on run and shoot 1 or 2 of them to show them pacifism....
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Majesty, Majesty....
MII-What that crazy KK returned from having fun with generals and saying he had horses which dont care if is forest or hill or whatever?
VOW-No, no we got an urgend diplomathic message...
MII-Dont care i do my beauty sleep, and tomorow i have to fight
Vow-is about that , we got a reply from the vikings,they are ready to be our vasals...
MII-so they accepted the offer...Well this is good news and bad news, i couldnt wait to try my rng on some batles, and to burn some vikings ports, as they we done to us some time ago,and the good news is i got my sugar i think in the morning first barge with sugar will arrive,mmm
Vow-So you didnt expected Darius to accept?
MII-I wanst sure how chikened out he is but looks like seeing our mighty fleet he just decided beter then loose verithing to handle this cities,which in the end are not that great but offer us the total control of the sea between us and scooter.
VOW(dispointed a litle bit)-so what now with our huge army, we stay and wait again?
MII-well no this was just operation sugar 1.We need to think if we go for sugar2, or sugar 3, or go for the great pupuet master Commodore...I bet he is pulling string to get a gogpile against us.
VOW-you got me confused with all sugar numbers, do we need more sugar or do other have other quality of sugar?
Mii-i will explain you in the morning , go sleep is in comodore hands for now..., if we go after him or not..
bye.
April 30th, 2014, 05:02
(This post was last modified: April 30th, 2014, 05:02 by mackoti.)
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Jumped in game intending to play but i remeber i am after comodore, fortunately no harm move were made.
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Wog- I have in ideea sir, why dont we take the big usland from finhary would be nice aquisition for us.
MIi-you forgot , we promissed thenm a 30 or 40 turns nap, and just 20 had passed.Phew i dont remeber now, and i always keep my promises even that costs me.
WoG- iwas why did you gave such big nap to scooter this migh bite us later.
Mii-if it it is.
So no atack there, and you are all so incompentent i need to do all plaining like 2 hours for the everithing , you just ate my money for nothin...
WoG-what money he is paying us with gold..., grumble grumbel.
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I declared war on plako hoping i will do some damage to him, and was posible to raze 3-4 cities on my east, and make him to use golden age to upgrade frigates and units so he take a hit this way.
As always i let him a dor open for him to sign peace.
When i loaded turn there was an ofer for white peace, fisrt i tought wel no way dear plako, but after just looking a bit to right i seen plako reaseching AL, what the heck you are under presion you need destroyers to defend,and you go AL?And in that moment comodore poped into my mind, course he had combustion he must gave some oil to plako so plako will finish AL in 2 turns so he can draft by then infanteries and will have destroyers as well, say thank you to krill for 50% bonus known tech plako, and to comodore for so willing to help.
And wasnt just that comodore gifted like dont knoe exactly over 2k gold if wasnt more to plako, so plako upgrades the damn ships and still has money to finish AL.So yeah till i had time to mount 1 atack , get units in place with some help (know tech bonus, comodore) Plako gets even with me on tech although he has like 20 k raw beaker less produced.
Now i realy feel the pain of novice and seven spaceman in pbem 23, when you want to do something 2 people allies to realy anihilate your planning.I supose thats the game.
A litle bit about comodore , and how he is blind:
If he wasnt helping plako, i would had get razed 2-3 cities and i would eventualy made plako to waste half an Ga, even maybe make him go slavery and slave some cities, this way he reamin very strong in in 3 turns will be at tech parity so very well played comodore.
SO-
when i wanted to invade scooter, comodre apears and gave scoote r 2k gold so he can get combustion in time and have someney to upgrade as well
- when i invaded azza he prepapre a force to strike the shrine which eventulay ahppened and gissftet to scooter .
-now helpes plako big time against me as well.
Questin does he derserve to be let alone?
The preoblem with atacking plako was that i took a huge risk having my units far away but i was ready to do that and live dangerous but comodore made me to not take this risk, this was the only chanche the status qvo to be changched and commoodre decided not.
I have a huge army and no one to use on it now: 40 destroyers, 28 transporst ,61 infanteries,32 cavalries, 10 artilery ,17 canons and other junsk which is loads of them too.
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Yesterday painting at my house i tought alot about this game and there was just one conclusion this will be a draw.I seen scooter posted alot so he is enjoying again the game, Comodore finds pleasuer mixing in my plans.
The overal staus is like this:
best position , clearly scooter he has a 36 Nap remained with me a neighbour which love him and 3 neighbours which practicaly donated him land, he has same land like me and i bulied and took alot of land from him, i wanted to say same land area cause this land is looking way beter then what i have on my continent loads of tundra and plains, will start a Ga in like 10 12 turns dont know exactly , if he wants he can go Sp, or whatever and with that land he will in poleposition in 20 turns for sure.Were scooter was i wasnt stoped him, i dont wanan thing everithing was on his side: betre continete, aneigbour which practicaly didnt fighted back and after he conquered 2 neighbours which were fighting between them,and when i had the posibility to take that shrine comodore sent his cavalry to the save.I think no one atacked him all game so he just played his sandbox and atacked when he wanted.And for everithing to be perfect , zerkers, circumnavigation , and the best leader in rbmod darius.Where i was if in his position,wel first i wanted to say i would have been so far away, but remebered neighbour was comodore so he would had felt the need to do something to stop me even sacrificiend himself for the good of the world, so I cant say....
SEcond is between me and plako, Plako as well had neighbours soft and atacked them when he desired,i think bachus was in a long war with retep from turn spliting but not sure about that.I had city visibilty on plako for a long time and i think he build OU like 20-30 turns after me same academy far later ,and i seen in his very few infratsructure for a long time, but this doenst mater when the tech bonus is so huge..,I even think plako didnt bther to much with micro or anithing,but his neighours didnt gave him a headache so why bother.
I put me third, first of all, this continent ahd some realy good playes like dtay and finhary, which expanded good , for example sutree managed to have 5 cities and i think mh had same the land worse so i conquered 2 neighbours got all the island between me and scooter(and talking about thoose this are the worse island comapare with what the other got) and i bearly keep in land with scooter he will pass me right away.For example oponenst left on plako contitnet are Wlp, and 2metra which both are very backward.
So which are my option? I wnated to stop plako but i realized i done a huge mistake, casue the main competition is scooter an you will see that very soon.I managed to destroy my relation with plako i will try to repair somehow, i dont know what i was thinking....
You might say why didnt atacked Finhary, well when scooter was on my borders with zerkewrs and 6 moves galeaon i promised a 30 turn Nap whhich i honore(or were 40) i have to check that and now they have infanteries , and will have artilery and loads of unist , so who wants to atack them????.And my memories whith atacking them are not very pleseant, when they destroyed my stack.A lot of time i belived that was my move which lost me the game but is not true the other would had catch up easily with all tjhis konown bonus.
So i will tech get some wonders and play till other decided to call the game as well.
Sorry for the long leter.
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Well , i just want to ask something and how this feels to others becasue for me is very strange...
Scooter moved 7 cavalry towards a city of azza, nothing to cover them , azza has in a city 2 squares away 16 cats , 8-9 knigs, 10 muskest and no unit of scooter near that city, and azza decided to not atack those cavalries ,well i realy call this bad defence even worse then AI....
How just scooter gets this kind of neighbours?After seeing this i oficilay annouce i am looking for a replacemnet, is already too much for me.
May 8th, 2014, 15:15
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azza refused to attack lewwyn in similar situations... in that case hurt scooter because lewwyn does not need to split defense. i agree i wish azza did strong defense, but i think this one is equal to help and hurt scooter.
a little spoiler stuff there but it is from dead people. i see you are frustrated because you only see one side... i hope you do not quit. :-)
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(May 8th, 2014, 15:15)Ceiliazul Wrote: azza refused to attack lewwyn in similar situations... in that case hurt scooter because lewwyn does not need to split defense. i agree i wish azza did strong defense, but i think this one is equal to help and hurt scooter.
a little spoiler stuff there but it is from dead people. i see you are frustrated because you only see one side... i hope you do not quit. :-) i think you undurstand me wrong, evenmore that shows how this people played.
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Last turn i microed my civ for near 40 minutes and now will be a reload from my autosave , so all that work is trown away.And btw rememeber me if i sign for agame and azza is in there to say NOOOOOOO.What this huy is doing is completly bad and lack of sportmanship.He had a good chanse to get his city back and kill all those cavalries , but what he does?he eliberates another city so some cavallries can take easy next turn.But maybe thats his level of understanding civ(as my goodfriend 2metra is saying, is all what he can, dont be harsh on him).
So yeah, Dtay remeber is a buton called pause....
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