[SPOILERS] SevenSpirits and The Black Sword - Baguettes and Circuses

[The Black Sword]

Guess it should have been SW. I doubt we'll be settling that area immediately and we'll want to send a warrior over to pillage the pasture anyway, we can let him finish defogging the coast.

[Krill]

This is getting a bit crazy, but we could also consider going worker-worker-granary at size 4 and then growing to 8 before settler. Unfortunately, reaching size 8 is not immediately amazing if we chopped even one forest, because we don't have enough health. Only 3 forests left and no grains for the granary.

I'd like to hear more about this plan. It sounds interesting.

[SevenSpirits]

Yeah, it's fine. The scout can continue northwest and maybe get to loop back east.

[SevenSpirits]

t6

Found gems and revealed horses.



Someone has 7 food. So that would presumably be Yuri who must have worked a 1/2 forest with a PH cap for 4t and then hooked a fish on his 5th turn.

Mackoti and Dreylin both got techs and total rival power went up 4k. They both go before us in the turn so AH seems to fit for both of them. (Both started with hunting/fishing.)

Next turn we have to select a tech. I think I remember there being a "correct" sequence of techs to have selected assuming we improve cow first - correct in the sense that we save a beaker over the straightforward way. I think that pottery, then mining for two turns, then finish pottery, is one of the optimal ones, in that it finishes pottery exactly with no overflow to round down. But that does presume we want mining next.

[The Black Sword]

Someone has 7 food. So that would presumably be Ichabod who must have worked a 1/2 forest with a PH cap for 4t and then hooked a fish on his 5th turn.

There's something weird going on, the rival best production was 3 on T3. So only Pro Yuri with a plains hill could have managed to hook the fish in time. He's still delaying a turn unnecessarily with that 3 prod instead of 4 though.

[SevenSpirits]

Maybe he was working a 1/2 tile but with governor on, and when he ended turn 2 his borders popped and the governor switched him to a 2/1 tile?

Edit: Oh and I misspoke, I meant Yuri not Ichabod.

[SevenSpirits]

Confirmed that the governor prefers 3/0 tiles to 2/1 tiles, and 2/1 tiles to 1/2 tiles, even with PRO building a work boat. So I think this indicates that Yuri has no first ring 2/1/x or 3/0/x tiles, and looking back at the exact demos, he must have a 3/0/x tile second ring.

Edit: and since he picked up hunting, we have to think that it's likely an AH resource or (unlikely) a deer.

[The Black Sword]

Cool, that makes sense.

I don't really like the granary or size 5 paths. The first settler seems too good of a deal, with at least a plains hill plant and 6 yield tile on offer.

-Size 5 delays that, and is another growth not going through a granary.

-We don't really have enough grass for the granary path to grow a pop each turn(note the one open river grass in the sim should be a plains). Cottages don't seem a priority at the the moment. The mines will result in a lot of warriors and I think we have enough.

Going Pottery -> Myst -> Meditation isn't too bad:


We're essentially down the slavery revolt and up a forest for a T20 Meditation. I think I prefer the BW path still, but I can see some appeal to this. I had forgotten that Dreylin is Cre, and Yuri will almost certainly go up to BW as well. I think we'd have a good shot at one of the first two religions and I'm pretty confident we could get Judaism if all else fails.

[The Black Sword]

We find more diamonds.

I put 15b into Pottery leaving 54 to go. We make 11bpt -> 13bpt with pre-req at size 1. 4x13=52b. So, we need to put 2 turns of size 1 research in and 2 turns of size 2(just before we complete the sheep for another bpt).

EDIT: Actually does it save us anything? 4 turns of size 1 and we're 2b short. 1 turn of size 2 is 14bpt, that's 12 overflow which is rounded down evenly to 10, so nothing lost.

Yuri grows to size 2, accounting for the 10f rival best yield, agreeing with the previous analysis.

[SevenSpirits]

Ah, you're right. I wonder how I got the 1 beaker difference? Huh.