WW38: The Story of the Stories

[Lewwyn]

I would argue there were multiple high priority targets for scum and town protectors based on Gaz hanging. Don't see Leewyn as clear standout.

I would also argue there were at least 3 people as towny or more than me (3 that I trust completely as town).

[zakalwe]

The flavor of my role makes sense as high priority though, I manipulate everyone's mind so they think Lewwyn is Pindi and vice versa.

I suggest you ask
The almighty bricklayer
About ordering

[AdrienIer]

I would argue there were multiple high priority targets for scum and town protectors based on Gaz hanging. Don't see Leewyn as clear standout.

I would also argue there were at least 3 people as towny or more than me (3 that I trust completely as town).

Yeah but you're the one who pulled a trick on scum by changing at the last moment on purpose. They must have been pissed

[Krill]

My understanding was that Prior to Lewwyn changing his vote, the votes were tied, and the influence scores were tied. That is to say, that Lewwyns vote change altered it from potential scum death to certain scum death...but if he was scum he just gets massive town points and could easily hide for a bit. So no, I don't really trust that vote change. And in the instance that moloch is also scum (which right now I have no opinion on) it's a pure win for him.

[Ichabod]

Meiz, c'mon. Novice switching to Molach would be very easy as scum. Wake up, please. For him to get called on it, we'd have to lynch Gazglum afterwards. Which was not that likely, really, because Gazglum's lynch didn't have massive support from the players, it just kind happened in the end, really.

And a lot of other stuff would stand out on rereads, other than that single Novice vote for Molach.

And I've actually reread Novice's posts. He has not a single post on day 1 that invalidates a Molach vote until the post where he votes Fenn. And why did he goes so far as to defend Molach in his post voting Fenn near the deadline? Why not just vote Fenn while keeping a late switch option opened? Defending Molach was pretty bad if he wanted to protect Gazglum with that Fenn vote, which is what you are saying he did. No comments on that, Mr. Oh-It-Was-Easy-To-See?

You are smarter than the case you are making agains me, Meiz. Let's see, tour case on me that you made during the night relies on Molach being scum (otherwise why would I stir the pot with Shadeun and vote Gazglum?). Your case on me now relies on Novice being scum (otherwise, why would I backtrack my vote?). That's a really big stretch and you're just seeing what you want to see, it doesn't make any sense. It's actually so bad play coming from you that I'm starting to suspect you of faking it. Usually when you make a case, you check out and link posts and all that. Now you are just throwing mud at me for no reason, just looking at everything through a bad light with badly thought one-liners saying "this doesn't make sense". I bet you'll keep me as your own pocket case for the rest of the game, which is a pretty phony move.

And I said that that one Goreripper post was phony, not his play overall. Do you see me voting for him? Do you see me throwing him at possible vote list?

To be fair, I actually thought you suspected me during the night to try and divert nightkills from me, because you wouldn't be so bad in your suspicions... Not a surprise that I was wrong, I guess.

I'm watching you. You voted for Gazglum, alright, but your play overall is pretty bad.

And no wonder Zak agrees with you. No offense, but you probably had him in the bag when you mentioned "the brother's power of convincing" or whatever the hell that was. Again, Novice voting Molach was really easy at that time.

[Ichabod]

Regarding the mess of night actions, my take on it is that Pindicator was blocked when trying to make a kill. I already suspect Pindicator, so it really fits pretty well.

I think Mattimeo is doing the usual "I won't defend or say anything and people will eventually forget about me" defense.

What's the point of voting Krill? He plays different than us. Understand this and give him some more time. These votes aren't really helping.

[Rowain]

My understanding was that Prior to Lewwyn changing his vote, the votes were tied, and the influence scores were tied. That is to say, that Lewwyns vote change altered it from potential scum death to certain scum death...but if he was scum he just gets massive town points and could easily hide for a bit. So no, I don't really trust that vote change. And in the instance that moloch is also scum (which right now I have no opinion on) it's a pure win for him.

That is quite right.

But it neglects Lewwyns posts and play during Day 1.
Besides your suspicion of Lewwyn do you have other views on who might be town/scum?


@Lewwyn
Any words from your quicktopic?

[Fenn]

Sorry for being inactive recently, guys. I've had health issues the past few days and spent most of yesterday laid up in bed.

Last night, I used my night action and got a No Result - which, knowing what we know so far about last night's actions, I can't explain.

[Mattimeo]

I think Mattimeo is doing the usual "I won't defend or say anything and people will eventually forget about me" defense.

Sure; what do you want me to actually defend against?

@Lewwyn
Any words from your quicktopic?

all are mine; Lewwyn can confirm:

I'm honestly this close to just quoting http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showthrea...#pid535774 and voting zak.
Like, every single one of those points is entirely disingenuous.

Claims:
Krill I'm willing to take face value for now. Would still like him to contribute more than single line posts though...
Adrien's reasoning on switching you to pindi is a bit iffy, but when isn't it :/
zak's doesn't change the view of him at all. In fact, if we're looking at the ability in a meta-state, it's as likely to be scum as it is town - blocking, and a day late?
'Advice from Mycroft' I'm more inclined to group with 'traffic warden' than anything legitimate, especially with those activation conditions.

Probably claiming neighbour (and voting zak) in an hour or so, just before going to sleep.

zakalwe

That mysterious neighbor sounds a lot like Mattimeo...

Funny, that.

[Bobchillingworth]

Voting for Krill doesn't make any sense to me.


I am confused as to who was actually jailed last night- as someone mentioned, it would be helpful if Krill / Adrien could get priority clarification from Brick.